Is Forex Trading a genuine revenue for income?

Hi all,

I’ve been doing some research on Forex trading and since then my Facebook feed as come up with pop ups of various Forex education courses etc. however, when I look down at the comments, most people react with “Forex trading is a scam!” “Don’t do it!” or similar.

My questions is, why are people so against trading? Is it because they’re not educated? Or is it because they’ve had poor experience? Are there more Forex scams than there are genuine trading services? - Why are people seem so against trading…?

At this stage, I’m looking to enter into Forex trading as only a form of supplementary income as I’m trying to be realistic and am aware of the potential profit AND losses that can occur and only investing what I can afford to lose.

I look forward to hearing some opinions on this :slight_smile:

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Hey.

Afraid to say that it’s a combination of all that you have mentioned to some degree or another. Put another way: the odds of success are not stacked in your favor.

Do I personally think that trading retail spot FOREX is a way to trade and make money: definitely not. Trading Equities and Commodities: definitely yes.

The above being said: there are a very few around here that so far as I can tell MAY be making some money trading retail spot FOREX. Unfortunately it’s difficult to verify i.e. traders are pretty vocal when things are going well but tend to go very quiet or disappear in a flash when they’re losing money or have wiped out their accounts.

But let me say this: in the business of trading in general there are just some rules that cannot be broken. Problem is that just about every new trader comes along and thinks they’re better than the last failed trader and that such rules don’t apply to them because they have some notion that they’re special. The end result is always the same.

Let me add this also: the entire retail spot FOREX industry is actually geared toward making it very easy to not adhere to such rules so in fairness your average new trader is probably not entirely to blame either. It is a very well crafted and well oiled machine designed to take advantage of certain personality traits inherent is most of all of us and it works very well.

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Thank you for your reply @dpaterso

I’m definitely looking at trading commodities such as gold and crude oil although you’ve definitely given me a lot to think about! :smile:

Riskiness is associated with any business. So one can’t blame the business for the failures a trader actually faces. It is true that forex business is also correlated with some uncertainties and a trader will necessitate to bring success after overcoming all odds by making maximum use of all benefits of forex.

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And the regurgitation begins.

well
your broker has to be regulated by a serious organization either in the UK Japan Europe US
second if you do not know how to trade and did not try in a demo account then
you are probably gonna waste time and money
and lastly it is not a get rich quick thing
if you know what is trading
have a regulated broker
and with an account of 1k you probably can pick up 20 to 30 dollars per day with a click of a mouse if you have a good strategy (and this can be acquired with many years trading and studying or by working with a good signal provider that you have thoroughly tested in demo account )

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And the regurgitation continues.

At a guess: how many posts do you think there are that have been posted in just the last two months repeating the exact same thing.

Mind you: one could also ask how many threads have been started in just the last two months by people who couldn’t be bothered to read a few existing threads before decided to ask something.

And so the cycle continues…

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Hey! First of all, everywhere you will see some positive and negative things. Most of the unsuccessful traders think that: They lost the money due to a scammer. They didn’t try to know about them, just got greedy in some broker’s promotion and started their trading journey and as a result after the end of the day lose money, At last, they will say scammer took my money. Don’t allow these ■■■■ people in your mind, If you are interested to start learning and mind it there is a lot of source on the internet to learn Forex. And I think Babypips.com is the best place to learn.

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dpat you probably know all this but will repeat it as it is important
this point about regulations can not be overemphasized
the market makers are essential part of the deal
nobody wanna go to some bad neighborhood to trade except if he or she is trading in unlawful stuff

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It is worth realising that retail forex trading is not actually trading foreign exchange at all. Your transactions are counterpartied by your broker and you do not actually purchase and sell anything. You are only taking a bet on the direction of the exchange rate between two currencies, you are not physically buying and selling them at all.

Also, although there are reputable brokers (which are regulated by reputable regulatory authorities), there are also many non-reputable brokers (which are either regulated by more dubious authorities or effectively not at all).

Therefore, you can see that there are opportunities for less reputable brokers to take advantage of customers who have been näive enough not to have done their due diligence before giving their money to such brokers.

However, there are reputable and well-regulated brokers that one can anticipate trading safely with.

But the other side of the “coin” is that there is hardly any serious regulation covering the traders themselves. Virtually anyone can start trading if their local laws allow it and they have some funds. There are no minimum requirements or entry qualifications or educational criteria.

This obviously means that there is a large number of Newbie traders that do not really have a clue what they are getting into, nor do they always have the basic intelligence or sense to be able to grasp the nature of trading, the risks involved or the meaning of money management.

Therefore, it is not difficult to conclude that many wannabe traders are totally capable of losing all their money without any need for their brokers to do anything to assist in this process.

Then there is a third group - a shadowy world of exploiters who are also in no way regulated. Just about anyone can start selling forex training courses, signals, advisory services, managed accounts and so on. Again, there is no mechanism to control or verify the authenticity of such people. So it is not surprising that there are many starters who also get swallowed by these waifs and strays. This site is a great target for such scammers precisely because it is designed for beginners such as yourself. But thanks to the active moderation of this site and the voluntary monitoring of more experienced members here (such as @dpaterso ) these are usually spotted at an early stage and shown the door.

But there are people who make money from retail trading - and from forex as well as from commodities and equities - and it is a question of learning systematically how to do it! This is not easy because there are no definitive training courses or establishments such as there are if one wants to be a doctor or dentist or a car mechanic or IT programmer etc. It is a very hit and miss process, usually evolving from a process of learning from one’s own mistakes on a demo account before even starting with real money.

So the point of all of the above is really just to show that there are many reasons why many people fail and that one should expect, under these rather unique circumstances, a lot of backlash against the industry from failed traders. And therefore the figure of 70% of traders losing money from trading is not a true measure of the complexity of trading as a profession - rather it is a reflection of the diversity of ways and reasons that amateurs and unsuited persons can be separated from their funds!

If we talk about trading as a supplemental activity then i think you stand a good chance of succeeding eventually. One of the most common categories of failure reasons are personal psychological factors - greed, fear, revenge trading, overtrading, impatience, and so on. By looking to trade as a sideline, it is easier to avoid a lot of these.

For example, if one starts with $100 and decides to risk about 2% of equity per trade then, if one trades carefully and prudently, you will soon be very frustrated with only earning maybe $10 by the end of a week’s worth of screen time and analysis - so one quickly decides that bigger positions will speed up the process…and…:open_mouth:

Another problem is that most new traders start with day trading thinking that it is easier and doesn’t need such big stops and therefore less risk. But day trading is not so simple and it requires a huge amount of concentration and discipline and a sharp precision regarding entries and exits. Earning consistently from day trading is in some ways an “extreme sport”!

There are many things you will need to go through, and make decisions on, concerning how you are going to trade, what you will trade, what time frames, position size, risk and money management parameters etc. It is easy to make a lot of money on a trade - and it is just as easy, if not easier, to lose it, too - this probably describes the bulk of retail traders. But what you need to aim for is a consistent rate of earnings over an ongoing period of time.

Babypips is designed for beginners and is therefore a logical place to come to. And its basis course is good. But it is worth realising that the bulk of other members here are also new or finding their way - although that does not stop them from giving you advice. So take what is said with that proverbial pinch of salt - and that includes this post, too! :scream: :rofl:

PS Sorry @dpaterso for more regurgitating! :slight_smile:

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No. See. That’s by no means regurgitation. That is a) a post of note and b) a post into which a lot of thought went into. Furthermore: there are plenty specifics in the post and that leave nobody guessing about exactly what it is that is being explained. And not to mention from where the post is coming from i.e. somebody with credentials. Big difference between a post such as that and the other stuff that flares up here on a minute-by-minute basis and that has absolutely no substance at all. And I thought I was bored!!! LOL!!!

As for the voluntary moderation!!! LOL!!! Yeh. What can I say. I know I joked about this before but it’s like watching a train wreck that’s about to happen and try as you might you just cannot look away!!! LOL!!! But if it’s any consolation to some: I’ll be back in my own little corners of the site comes tomorrow when the markets are open.

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:+1:
great advice

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It can be a good source of income but you should keep several things in mind:

  1. It takes a long time and a lot of effort to learn.
  2. In the meantime you’ll probably be losing money.
  3. And you may never learn enough to your satisfaction.
  4. Also, even when you learn regular profits aren’t guaranteed.
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Not really

The issue is very complex, so there is no one simple solution.
The sitiation with the retial Forex trading is so complicated due to the following reasons:

  1. Lack of financial literacy. Most of the people who start trading have no degree in finance or other proper education. In most of the cases, they have no even basic understanding of financial instruments and the way they operate. Plus, they are impressed by Forex ads claiming 1000% profits per month or something like that, so they are expecting huge profits without any risk or efforts. Thus, they became surprised when notice that the reality differs substantially.
  2. Regulatory gap. Financial regulations in several countries are too weak, that creates favorable conditions for scam projects. While the Equropean countries are tightening their restricitons, those scam project move to offshore countries.
  3. Conflict of interest. In fact, all Forex brokers do not provide access to the market, but just create simulated trading environment (you can easily find a confirmation to this statement in Terms and Conditions used by any regulated broker). That is why broker acts as a counterpart, that creates certain conflict of interest. The only way to deal with this is to impose strict regulations excluding any possibility of unfair practice.

At the same time, Forex provides the lowest possiblte financial treshold, so numerous newbie traders would come to this market to make their first steps in trading.

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Donkey Sh1t City, Republica de Las Paranoias (with reference to point 2. above)!!! LOL!!!

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Find a good mentor with real verifiable trading results for years. I mean 15+ years. You’ll need to actually get to know this person and their method. They need to be available to you when you have questions. And you will have to have the self control to ONLY take trades valid for your method. (That could have you going a whole week with no trades sometimes) Learn from them and stay away from public forums for awhile… Public forums are filled with too much negativity and/or too much hope for what can be achieved.

I don’t know, it’s what has worked for me so far… But I could still lose it all at anytime (risk management will slow it down at least haha.)

Best of luck!

P.S if you have to pay for someone of quality that is OK. Everything doesn’t have to be free. But investigate before you do pay up and make sure you will be dealing with a real person that will respond to you not just a set of videos.

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The advantage in Casino is the red ball, what is in Forex that makes it difficult to make profit, any way?

What does that mean? You are listed as an Honorary Member of FX-Men…does that mean you are in a group that hates Forex or uses it to generate income? Is your comment meant to stop all others? I am brand new to this site but have been trading for 30 years. Am I to understand that unless I know what was posted (that you didn’t like) previously, I am in danger of being called a regurgitator? How do you feel about the question itself? A HUGE percentage of FOREX traders lose money. It is even more staggering when compared to the average earnings seen by new investors in ANY of the other trading environments. Are you making money doing this? Should the lady cut her bait and take her minimal losses now? Is there a learning curve that she should expect? Regurgitate if necessary…if she had seen an answer to her question she would not have asked!

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It is all about WHAT YOU BELIEVE!. No difference between the asset class you trade. It is how you manage your position, position sizing.

If you do not understand what I mean, may I suggest you to read “Super Trader” by Van Tharp. Good luck!