Hello everyone.
I am going to open an instant funding account in a prop firm.
But I am new to this so I want to ask to a person who is doing this now.
Please let me know about it.
Hmm. I personally donât have any experience with prop firms. But this thread might be helpful.
iâll be very surprised if thereâs one here, Paul
i wish you well but iâm really sorry to hear it
how do you think it could benefit you?
youâre obviously not naive enough to imagine that theyâre funded with real money, or that a funding company (even if they call themselves a âprop firmâ) will allow a random, unproven stranger a greater drawdown facility than whatever heâs paid them up-front ⌠so whereâs the benefit?
Are you asking for advice on which company or are you already decided? Or are youasking about different types of accounts?
New to what? trading or prop firms? What exactly are you unsure about?
if it helps at all, Paul, hereâs what Lux Trading has to say about the instant funding model (i declare my bias: i agree with them!) -
I wonder how legit prop firms feel that these funding companies are calling themselves prop firms, too.
Janestreet.com is an example of a legit prop firm.
You canât get in there by paying a fee, you will need to be a masterâs or PhD in math or related area of study.
So called instant finding prop firms are scams that charge fees, but the arenât gonna give you any live account.
Myforexfunds.com had their bank account seized by u.s. and Canadian regulators, and ciminal indictments are coming.
Instant funding prop scams are apparently big business, myforexfunds.com took in three hundred million dollars.
Offshore brokerages tha operate anonymously when shutdown by regulatos will just close up shop and keep your deposits.
Rule one: trade with a regulated broker.
thanks to our excellent moderators, âmrharrypooterâ is no longer with us, but itâs still worth responding to his post above, to avoid other members being misled by a couple of inaccurate things he said, and to correct some very bad advice offered
but at the same time, letâs also acknowledge that some of what he said was exactly right and well worth pointing out!
thatâs exactly right
no, that isnât what happened
their bank accounts were not âseizedâ by anyone - they were temporarily frozen by a temporary court order at the request of regulators, and when the case is heard (end of October) if what the regulators allege turns out to be true, they may then be seized by the court and become the property of the temporary receiver appointed - thatâs just how these things work
letâs remember that the case hasnât even been heard yet: itâs all âallegationâ
my own guess is that the allegations are mostly true, because they seem to be based on inside information from a âwhistleblowerâ and some of them even seem to be documented, but itâs only a guess and guessing is all anyone can do, at this point
thatâs one theoretical possibility, but itâs not actually what normally happens, in these cases
no, thatâs just completely wrong: the âinstant fundingâ models actually account for less than 1% of the industryâs turnover
well, yes and no: the regulatorâs complaint specifies that they took in $310M throughout the lifespan of the business, and after paying out big affiliate commissions, staff salaries and all their other costs, it still actually paid out over $170M of that money to their successful traders
letâs be aware that they paid out, from what they took, at least $100M MORE than any counterparty forex-broker would have done, from the same deposited funds, over the same period (and iâm understating it!)
that perhaps puts it in a slightly different perspective, doesnât it?
thatâs bad advice in the sense that itâs hugely inadequate: most regulators donât and canât protect the customers at all
it has to be a PROPERLY regulated brokerage, otherwise you think you have some potential protection when you actually have none
that means regulated by the FCA, by ASIC, or by the CFTC or NFA
period
other regulators in obscure Caribbean, Pacific and other small countries are fake/pretend ones (ok, CySEC in Cyprus isnât completely horrible, but itâs the only other semi-respectable one) and theyâre paid for by the people they âregulateâ and they never rule against their paymasters
people need to know this!
it really, really is the Wild West, out there
these threads will help anyone willing to put in the effort of reading them âŚ