Hello traders. Suppose you spot an uptrend with several green candles with just one red candle in between. Do you count that candle as a trough or not?
A lot is made of chart features being as reliable as fingerprints or DNA or a chemical reaction in a lab. And really they’re nothing like this good.
A TA feature on a price chart is as good as what you want to use it for. So, assuming this is a trough you have been waiting for, what do you propose to do next?
i agree with what tommor’s saying (and implying) above
also, don’t forget that it isn’t so much the colour of the candle that matters, as much as whether it makes a new higher high and/or low
don’t forget that a red candle can still be one that makes both a higher low and a higher high than the candle before it - and nobody’s going to call that a “trough,” surely?
Since I am trend following I would need to know if there is a trough. Sometimes it’s hard to tell when it’s just one candle instead of a clearer pullback made of more candles.
OK, understood. I suppose there are two really good places to enter long in an uptrend -
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on a pull-back - this gets you in at a discount to recent prices and adds to the potential profit: if the trend continues for another 500 pips and you got in 50 pips below the prices around your entry time, you will get 550 pips
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on a break-out - this gets you in at a higher price than those seen around your entry point but you will have the reassurance of only entering when price is accelerating upwards: so in the situation above you might get only 450 pips profit, but it should be more secure and should be expected in a shorter time period
Both are valid, both are simple. Choice is a lot to do with how comfortable the trader feels doing each.
How do you decide when to wait for pullback or breakout?
This is not the key question. Over 100 trades it is the set-up which makes you profitable, not whether you entered 100 times on a pull-back or 100 times on a break-out.
More important for both approaches are the questions - What do you do if you are wrong? - and - What do you do if you are right?
The usual answer to Q1 is to always set a stop-loss and adjust your position size so that a loss will only be a small percentage of your account capital. Q2 is more difficult, but the ideal (difficult to reach) would be to keep adding to the position and keeping the stop-loss at the same distance back from the last entry, at least until there is a pull-back.
So I suppose you could see this as a cycle - buy in an uptrend on a break-out, add as the trend continues, exit at the start of a pull-back, re-enter as the pull-back completes etc. etc. etc.
I definitely agree and do proper position sizing. I was just wondering if you have a filter to when to use each method. Maybe if price runs away you wait for pullback and if pullback is small then enter on break out.
Not really these days. I am happy to enter on the first opportunity assuming a nice consistent trend.
I do like to see as many as possible of the other major charts for the two currencies are likewise also bullish or bearish as appropriate.
What kind of strategy do you have, just wondering. And if how you approach the trough changes if you were scalping versus say swing.
I’m never scalping.