Pending order/ stop loss limitations

Hi traders, New to the forex market and trading on alpari mt4 demo platform. I’m feeling pretty frustrated by all the limitations that are set as to how many pips away from the market price my limit orders or stops “must” be in order for me to enter the market.

I’m sure there are these sorts of limitations for all platforms, but it seems ridiculous that I can only place a stop loss a minimum of 40 pips from market price. I feel it’s very unfair to traders and wondering if there are other websites/platforms out there that aren’t as stifling with these types of limitation or dont set as many.

Almost every time I try to enter the market, I am set back by 1 or more of these sorts of limitations. Any wisdom you could share on the subject is appreciated.

it actually means 4 pips, 40 is camoed 4 pips with decimal

thanks fro the response, 4 pips would be much less of an issue but unfortunately it is not 4 pips. it actually is 40 pips specifically for a stop loss here. just tried again to place a stop 4 pips below based on your response but no dice.

I can’t believe it would be 40 pips…how many digits after the decimal are there in price?

So if price is, for example, 5 digits at .99090 and you want to place a pending buy at .99150 (6 pips above)…you can’t do it? 40 pips would mean it would only let you put a pending order in at .99490…hmmm I don’t think I’d go with that broker…try FXCM’s MT4 demo.

or Alpari, 1.6 eu

thanks 4 replies guys. Haven’t heard the best things about fxcm on forums but maybe i should reconsider? any other suggestions for good brokers?

Hi Redshifts,

I believe Sweet Pip is right that you may be looking at tenths of a pip instead of full pips. Many brokers nowadays will quotes forex prices to the tenth of a pip, so what may seem like 40 pips to you is actually 4.0 pips. If you see 5 digits in the price after the decimal point, then the fifth digit represents a tenth of a pip. If you have any questions about us, feel free to post it in the Broker Aid Station, or shoot me a message.

Jason

Hi redshifts,

Good question.

In Alpari (UK)'s MT4 five decimal place system 10 points equal to 1 pip. Therefore if you are setting a stop loss at 50 points, it equals to 5 pips.

Let’s get back to the basics:

Stop Loss: an order to close a previously opened position at a price less profitable for the customer than the price at the time of placing the order.
Take Profit: an order to close a previously opened position at a price more profitable for the customer than the price at the time of placing the order.

If you place these types of orders you do not have to sit in front of your computer to wait for the outcome. “Take Profit” and “Stop Loss” orders will be executed automatically as soon as the price reaches order level (see below). You can place Stop Loss and Take Profit at the time of making a deal filling in the “Stop Loss” and “Take Profit” fields in the “Order” window:


Afterwards in order to modify Stop Loss and Take Profit levels use the context menu:


Right-click on the open position or on the pending order in the “Trade” tab of the “Terminal” window then select “Modify or delete order”. The “Modify order” window enables:


Fill in the “Stop Loss” and “Take Profit” fields. By pressing the red button (in our example “1.2121”) you can copy this level into the “Stop Loss” field. By pressing the blue button (in our example ‘1.2096’) you can copy this level in the “Take profit” field. The value in the “Level” field defines the difference between the order level and the current price. Once you fill in the “Stop Loss” and/or “Take profit” fields press the “Modify #position number” button.
The limits for the minimum range between the order and the current price are defined in the Contracts Specifications.

In order to delete “Stop Loss” or “Take Profit” orders, specify its level as equal to zero.
“Stop Loss” and “Take Profit” orders are executed in the following cases:

• The “Take Profit” order on an open Buy position is executed if the Bid price in the quotes flow becomes equal or higher than the order level.
• The “Stop Loss” order on an open Buy position is executed if the Bid price in the quotes flow becomes equal or lower than the order level.
• The “Take Profit” order on an open Sell position is executed if the Ask price in the quotes flow becomes equal or lower than the order level.
• The “Stop Loss” order on an open Sell position is executed if the Ask price in the quotes flow becomes equal or higher than the order level.

The order will be executed if at least one quote in the quotes flow reaches the order level. Please note, that in MetaTrader 4, charts are created using Bid prices. So:

• Minimum Ask price is equal to the minimum bar price (Low) plus spread.
• Maximum Ask price is equal to the maximum bar price (High) plus spread.
• Minimum Bid price is equal to the minimum bar price (Low).
• Maximum Bid price is equal to the maximum bar price (High).

If, under abnormal market conditions, the order level falls within the price gap, Alpari (UK) has the right to execute the order at the Bid or Ask price (depending on order type) of the first obtainable after the gap quote.

If you have any other queries, please feel free to contact our team on live-chat, via email or on +44 (0) 207 426 2900. We’re here to help.

Alex

I was doing the same thing and thinking evil things about IG. Thanks everyone

Dear sir
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Opened trade
Any pair sell order
1.4567
Now you want to to stop loss or take profit of only a single pip.
Sl1.4568
Tp 1.1566
Broker allows you. There is no sny problem or restrictions from broker side. The most important thing that all we need is only to select such perfect broker on the market.
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Hello trader

The minimum pip required for pending order is call “Stop Level”. You can see it in Specification windows (right mouse click on forex pair and select specification)

For example
stop level

My GBPUSD stop level = 50 ( its 5 digit broker, means 5 pip)

The closet pending order is current price +/- 5 pip.

So, if current Ask price is 1.00000, buy stop order need to be set at 1.00050 or above.

This stop level is also applied with Take profit and stop loss price. ie. You need at least 5 pip for setup take profit level.

Hope this help.