Risk & money management

hi everyone im putting a checklist together on what i should study to have a good depth on rm&mm

so far i have
margin
leverage
RR
pip value
position sizing
ATR

i feel these are some good basics to look into. if anyone has any suggestions feel free to comment.

i want to learn these first before developing so I’m organized

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Looks solid so far! Maybe you could also add things like drawdown, risk of ruin, and win rate vs. payoff ratio; those help tie it all together when you’re managing risk over time. Good luck with the deep dive!

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Risk of ruin for sure. I refer back to my chart to keep the odds the same or increasing as I add to a position:

I do refer to ATR on Daily time frames or larger. Just because intraday ATR is predictable once you see the pattern through a week. Say the Hourly chart ATR(14). Each pair has different expansion and contraction ATR, based on their volume and time of day open.

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hi @EmeraldEyes and @FranziskaSchulz thank you for the feedback.

i have never heard of Risk of ruin before i should add this and take a look!

Hi @tomo22,

Trading stats is the priority to develop MM and RM. :smiley:

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Hi @EmeraldEyes , @TYGMedia and @FranziskaSchulz

I wanted to ask with ATR what is your moving average type? SMA?

I looked into the person who created ATR who is j Welles Wilder who also devloped his own MA , WMA, which emphasises on recent price action.

I wanted to hear your thoughts and what ma you select

ATR is just the average range. I can see it by subtracting the high from the low, take the average of however many periods.

I personally don’t use the price chart or indicators to trade so I’m not sure about them.

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hi @EmeraldEyes, i see how come you don’t like to use indicator?

doesn’t it make things simpler for yourself if it spits out the answer straight to you instead of calculating the high - low and finding the average over x amount periods? also what if you miscalculate?

Hi @tomo22

ATR is an oscillator. Most oscillator means momentum. So ATR is showing momentum.
The idea behind ATR is looking for momentum of current movement. Example when you see in on chart specific TF, the average ATR is 22 pips, when the ATR is reaching this number, there is a potential to have reversal.

Problem with ATR is, it doesn’t tell direction. It’s just tell you how far the price has move base on the parameter. ATR is very subjective, can be useful for scalping if we know how to use ut properly. It also can define when pullback will be potential.

As what I define CA, ATR can tell us when RBD/DBR. Many other way to use ATR.

For MA, we can use different type of MA. When we are looking for trend, SMA is the best. While we are looking for entry signal, other type of MA will be better.
Everything depend on aspect we look in the chart.

Indicator will help us to spot something, For example, EMA + ATR can be used for scalping, during crossover . We can also trade correction by looking at SMA + ATR.
FraMA + ATR is popular in HFT and correlation trade.

Many more … :rofl:

I don’t need to find the exact ATR. Just to see if price discovery is expanding or contracting… but that’s just for observation.

Not so, at all: ATR is showing volatility, not momentum.

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Hi @Epistemic,

Thanks for the correction. Yes, ATR is used to measure volatility :slightly_smiling_face:. ATR can be used to as momentum indicator as well. It depends on how we use it.
Most oscillators are momentum indicator. Reason is base on the formula, it only calculate last few candles. You can compare how MA is calculated. :slight_smile:

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