Streak Calculator: The importance of knowing your odds

Yesterday i broke the longest loosing streak i ever had since becoming profitable. I lost 6 trades before i had a winning trade again.

Despite i already knew that my strategy will produce long loosing streaks every now and then, because my win rate is oscillating between 40 and 60 percent, it had a very very hard time sitting out the loosing streak.

What helped me getting in the right mindset again was this streak calculator i found online: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-calculators/streak-calculator/

It is made for sports betting but of course we traders can also use it. After 79 trades since becoming profitable, with a loosing rate of 50,63 % my odds to encounter my 6 trade loosing streak were 47.976 %.

It was a relief for me to see that and i will use this streak calculator to assess my risk/trade in the future, too.

Very useful tool i just wanted to share.

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I use ForexFactory for every of my account statement.

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Good for you. It is important to have plenty of data and statistics. I dont like to use third party services and just calculate everything myself. Myfxbook doesnt even support my broker. Idk about ForexFactory.

do you know how many loss trades in a row you can achieve trading via this strategy?

My risk is between 1 and 2 %. So it would take between 50 and 100 loosing trades to eat up my account. I currently have a 50.63 % chance of loosing whenever i place a trade. I will make around 200 trades a year.

If i now use the streak calculator to look upon the next 100 years (20000 trades) it says i have a 1.201 % chance of encountering a 20 trades loosing streak. That would be very bad luck but my account would survive. I have a 99.998 % chance of encountering a 10 trade loosing streak so i would say this is the expected maximum.

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so you don’t know how many losing trades you can achieve BEFORE start trading this strategy

thanks for your helpful posts, @Worker_Bee :sunglasses:

people need also to be aware that in practice, consecutive losing runs are not usually the problem

the problem is usually long losing periods with a regularly repeating pattern of “several losers interspersed by only one winner,” and the risk factors for this happening are usually something between 5 and 10 times as high as the equivalent risk for consecutive losers

a sequence of results like LLLLLWLLLLLWLLLWLLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLL contains no more than 6 consecutive losers anywhere, but it can still devastate most people’s accounts, and it’s far, far more common than is suggested by looking at tables of “consecutive loser risk”

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Well i forward tested my strategy and had the data to calculate the odds like i did now but i didn’t. I knew that a 10 trade loosing streak would be bad luck. But i didn’t know that my odds to encounter one would be around 10% in a year.

Whats your point?

did you change anything to get a new profitable transaction?

No! This would be very foolish. I just took one loss after another believing in my strategy.

But i already admitted, that it got extremely hard in the end and the streak calculator just helped me stay true to my rules.

ok, it is very good :+1:do you have only one strategy ?

Yes just this one.

It is not good, check this topic The risk of trading one profitable strategy

Thanks, but i have a different opinion on that matter. I dont use EA’s. I am a discretionary, manual trader. So i have only limited time to trade. I cant trade multiple strategies at once. This one strategy is already eating up around 2 hours a day.

sure, it is your trading and your funds

Exactly. Remember, there is not only one way to success. And if i would use EA’s i surely would do it like you.

you don’t have to use EA’s to trade via portfolio :wink:

It’s great that you have faith in your strategy, and important to know it inside and out. Do you know why it loses that other 40-50% of the time?

I use a strategy on the 4H TF’s that works well in trending conditions. However, when prices are range bound, it does poorly, so I have to make adjustments such as widening my SL’s or moving to a different TF.

Therefore I have 3 different strategies depending on market conditions.

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It loses that other 50% of the time because my pattern doesnt always work. After a momentum move, short pullback and a break of the high/low i need price to continue 2 times the length of the pullback and not to reverse. If price does that in more than 33% of the time am profitable.

The same for me. My strategy, which I developed and refined carefully following a definite trading idea which I learned from my mentor, works differently according to how I manage the position I open (R/R, trailing stop profit/no trailng stop profit and so on). In this period, for example, I work quite well if I set a 1/1 R/R but when the market is more trending I can work well with a higher R/R ratio. So, I could say that actually I have many strategies according to the actual management of a single trading principle. My 2 cents of course, I’m a newbie and I like to listen to more experienced fellow traders.