Then, don’t use the H4 for trailing right off the bat. If the main intent of the 1st Duck to be the Trend Filter, then it does not make sense to use it as as a Trailing Stop at the very beginning.
Instead, build up to the H4. First, just as the “Captain” explains, use the swing lows/highs, starting with M5, to trail your trade and/or stack orders. Then once the trailing stop has cleared the H1 swing breakout point, you can then switch to trailing on H1 and subsequently after cleared the H4 swing breakout point (and still in your favour which would mean a really major trend) then you can use H4 swings for trailing, but not before that. You have to slowly build it up. Also, note that it is advisable to use the swing points and not MA itself as a trailing stop.
If you only trail on the H4 then you are failing to understand this dynamic of the 3 ducks working together and you are effectively only trading one duck, namely the H4.
Also, ally yourself with with strong money management techniques. Succeeding at this is not just about the “strategy” or “method”. It is also about how to protect your gains and manage your risks.