The EU - What is it really all about?

Where’s the evidence that Starmer is reforming Labour, let alone that he could win an election?

Shucks man, there’s no need for evidence in here. Just read the balderdash in this thread and the Trump thread . Truth and evidence might be useful in a court of law but has no place on an internet forum.
In here, you just shoot the breeze and before you start printing, be aware that anybody with a splink of common sense wouldn’t be in here in the first place.
That includes me BTW.

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Mate there’s asking a LOT ! :slightly_smiling_face:

Like assuming the “over-educated idiots” - would actually know what “evidence” means - much less be able to understand what “evidence” they could muster which might just demonstrate their point of view :rofl:

Not a hope in hell ! :rofl:

He comes back with ;

Pretending to dismiss your valid and sensible questioning of his random statement as though your request was somehow beneath his dignity - when the reality is in fact much sadder - and simply is that he really does not understand - or even know how to understand your question !

I was watching this - this afternoon and he, together with the rest of teh Crayon Crew, just fit so well into those they are speaking of ;

They are being dumbed down so they will comply “happiliy” with their masters every word !

We just have to make sure our own kids and grand-kids get liberal doses of critical thinking skills at home and don’t go anywhere NEAR a “University” ! :sunglasses:

What about the temporary suspension of Corbyn from the party - cannot find a leader suspending his predecessor in history of the Labour party, but happy to be corrected on this.

What about the latest YouGov poll Late December -

The poll shows the Tories down two points at 37% while Labour is up from 37% to 41%, the first time a YouGov poll has shown support for Labour above the 40% mark since Sir Keir became leader in April.

(dailybusinessgroup uk)

He’ll have to get past his own party first !

But Mick. we’re talking about Starmer and Labour. You must have seen things which made you come to these conclusions because that’s what you posted. I’m only asking to hear from you what you saw that made you think so.

Hi falstaff, long time no see :slight_smile:

Just had a glance at the first few secs of the video and here is a wild guess - Camberwell ?

If so this same branch posted back in Nov a demand that Sir Keir reinstate the whip to Corbyn “immediately”.

Anyhow, I’m not into predicting as you know - but …he will be the next UK PM.

Your choice :slightly_smiling_face:

TBH - Who cares about Labour ?

but you seem remarkably well informed for someone who doesn’t vote in UK elections.

Anyhow came across this ;
I guess my youth was more fun than this lot are havng .

And a spot of culture ;

Corbyn was suspended for about 10 minutes. So I guess Starmer set two records in one go - the first suspension of a preceding Labour leader, and the fastest reinstatement of a suspended member.

Labour and Conservatives are about neck and neck in the current Yougov voting intentions poll, which cannot be bad for Johnson, given that his divisive history, his inheritance of the May government, his stewardship of Brexit, his lockdown of the economy and his utter lack of policies.

The British always hate the British government. Elections are almost always lost by incumbent governments rather than won by opposition parties. After all, they are to blame.

On top of everything I despise his wearing the name Keir like a badge…

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Not 10 mins - 19 days suspended from the party - I posted about the whip being restored - that’s not down to the party to bestow - it’s in the hands of only two men.

Sir Keir got his two titles for a reason, the 1st he earned, the second his parents earned.

Edit: for guys not familiar with UK politics - the 2 guys are the chief whip and the party leader, the chief whip is chosen by the party leader.

One time I was driving through town, it was late at night and got stopped at a checkpoint.

These checkpoints always set the heart racing a little - “lights out, ID” was the usual bark.

Happened that I had a tape running of that very song (s&g)) and hadn’t time to shut it off. “Simon and Garfunkel? - brilliant group - keep her lit”.

(‘Keep her lit’ is local for ‘carry on’)

Anyways the cop was right, and when I’m feeling really low - hello darkness my ol’ friend.

So Starmer must have had good reasons to suspend Corbyn. So in the 19 days that followed, what did Corbyn do to make amends and correct his behaviour for the future?

Or was it down to left-wing party and Union pressure? so was Starmer right to suspend him or right to reinstate him?

Keir was the emblematic name his socialist parents gave him. But once they’re an adult with free will, everyone’s name is their own choice. He chooses to remain Keir. What a c0ck.

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that view presupposes that Boris will last as long as the next general election, and that might be quite a big assumption?

I’ve convinced myself he’s looking for the right moment to exit. If not for covid I think he might have gone as soon as the EU deal was signed. Maybe its just wishful thinking on my part…

The NEC reinstated his membership of the Labour party - reinstating to the PLP as i said above is not up to the nec but is up to the Leader and C Whip.

As to his Christian name - the adjective you have applied would be more appropriate if he had changed his name.

Reading today the PM might - just might rescind the fixed parliament act early next year when everyone has been vaccinated - now there is a thing :slight_smile:

I see Scottish fishermen protesting in London today about too much paperwork when exporting to the EU - that’s the thing about exporting/importing - lots of paperwork.

He’s got choice of first name, he’s a grown adult. The choice to retain that particular name given by such parents for such ideological reasons simply confirms their head-up-their-arse arrogance by maintaining his own.

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I’m hearing that Trump is considering a move to his golf course in Scotland as he can’t find anybody to play with him in Florida.
Borris will surely ask him to run for the Tories when the opportunity comes. They have a lot in common, including hair and lies.
Oh, and I nearly forgot…both first class charlatans.

WtF has that got to do with EU ?

Nope - will not happen - headline from The Times (UK) on Oct 11 2020:

Panicking No 10 dumps Donald Trump and woos Joe Biden