[quote=“tommor, post:8, topic:152481”]
Haven’t watched all this, but it re-iterates the conspiracy theory that forex prices are manipulated with the specific intention of taking money from retail traders.[/quote]
Ahh, It’s no conspiracy theory, they are taking money from ~90% of retail traders, big & small.
~3% Of the FX Market is estimated to be retail, still leaves a large percentage of $210,000,000 to up for grabs for a few hours work each day…
Hey @tommor Perfect example on the GBPJPY at the London open today…
edit: (and Yesterday’s open)
Price breaks the downtrend moves up 21 pips before continuing 1 hour later a further 70 pips to the south…
Same on yesterday’s NY open, downtrend in place instant move to the north of 40ish pips only to continue 2 hours later with a move down 55ish pips… take from it what you will…
I only noticed this pair because I had already been short (Heikin Ashi) on the GPBJPY since the middle of the Asian session… Maybe should check some of the other liquid pairs.
Making retail traders lose is not the objective of the massive forex market. a pair like GBP/JPY bounds about like crazy at the best of times: its always going to be highly risk-sensitive. Playing it and similar for minor pips is just like using a slot machine.
Agreed, the net result is the same, most retail traders lose. But that’s not why prices are moved. And they would continue to lose even if we had a cast iron guarantee that prices were never manipulated, on pain of MM’s death. And that’s because they are bad traders.
I haven’t looked at this chart but the example you gave demonstrates my point. Retail traders see the downtrend, they see price rise and they buy. Lo and behold, the trend proves to be the stronger force and resumes. They are stopped out. Not through market manipulation, through market behaviour. They were long in a downtrend, which is stupid.
The main reason I post these snippets of information off Youtube is so newbie or struggling trader/members will read it, take some of it in and in this instance… next time the price has a sudden change of direction on a market opening will think twice about jumping on the counter trend and not get caught out…
Sorry…I was under the misconception that the more experienced were here to help…
To say there is No manipulation would be wrong
As there has been for many of years to what extent i cannot say.
But with this in mind they cannot manipulate the major trend. So…
@chesterjohn
Technical analysis doesn’t make any sense.
It is the most important part of my Trading stratergy
i would not take a trade without it.
Thanks for this. I haven’t said the forex market isn’t manipulated. I’ve said - “Making retail traders lose is not the objective of the massive forex market.”
Losing retail traders like to hear they are being deliberately and personally targeted, it helps massage their bruised egos. But they’re still just bad traders.
I’d totally agree that 60% of Forex Traders lose funds due to self induced issues, poor understanding, to much risk, etc… The other 30 - 35% lose due the constant market manipulation of price action as shown so very clearly in the last two videos I have posted…
Longer term trading strategies (and pyramiding in) is successful because it doesn’t get caught up in the manipulation tactics applied to the market as often… A Moderator liked your post … a little disconcerting…
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Below is another insight into the MT4 Broker Client Management Tools that can be used against retail traders.
Also demonstrates how to be aware and profit from MM’s accumulation stages, Trend changes and other nefarious Broker behaviour designed to take traders accounts apart.
Three gems of information that can be taken away by new traders from both of these videos.
Most of what is being taught is rubbish… hence the phenomenal +90% of traders are losing money to the markets… You have to look deeper into the markets to get a real edge.
Patterns that are repeated over and over and over again…accumulation, squeeze, profit run…
Learn the patterns, know the patterns, use the patterns…you can’t beat em… copy em…
Price Action is King… Indicators lag… the parties nearly over once your Indicator shows a change in direction… study Price Action religiously… it will make you money…
I’m well aware that some of this content is over the heads of ~80% in the Babypips forums, yet these videos drag out into the daylight the undercurrents that steer Price Action and the Forex Markets.
Hi @peterma… These methods allow you to see when price is artificially being held up (or down) while the LP " Movers & Shakers" are busy accumulating positions in the opposite direction, then when they mark the price correctly and profit as it plunges or spikes into their “killing zone”
Perfect example last night (UTC +10) on the GBPUSD (as well as EURUSD)… Artificially held up around 1.3180ish for ~60 mins, then a major reversal down as far as 1.30840, 25 pips in 15 mins. Because you can see the “background” had already gone in the opposite direction…it’s a lot safer to go big once the move is on… let the market go on a liquidity hunt and spike down…
Hey, never be hopeless if you are still losing. Do some research about the mistakes in your previous trading. You should have to avoid those mistakes in the future if you want to become a successful trader like others. You should also have to control your emotions while trading. Thanks
My heart sinks when I read threads like this, all this does in confound new traders even more, a new trader just doesn’t understand the way the markets work, and this will just add to their problems and complicate trading even more.
To all new traders the markets are not against you, take time to understand the figures involved, the amount of money traded each day.
To help you with this, I’ll give you an example; if you had 1 million dollars in 1000 dollar bills stacked up high on top of each other, how high do you think it would stand? . . . . 20ft, 30ft, no 4 inches, it would be 4 inches tall. Sit there and think about that for a minute.
Now if you had a stack of 1 trillion dollars how high do you think that would be? Nearly 60 miles high.
Think about how much money is traded each day on the forex?
Do you really think they give a damn about the retail trader?
This should give you an idea of how much money is needed to move the markets.
