Trading for a living: When to Go Pro

When the potential is given to the average guy that he can possibly replace his existing income with profits from Forex, it becomes an easy aspiration to want to trade for a living.

Simply because you might have had a few good months, don’t be so quick to tell your boss to piss off. There’s a lot to consider before you do so.

First, let’s think long term. Right now you most likely have a job. It’s not likely you plan to work until you die. There is a point where you would want to be able to retire. For most, that age is on their mid to late sixties. You will need a big pile of money to support your retirement lifestyle. Do you really plan to stay glued to your charts your entire life? Of course not.

To secure your retirement you will need to consider the amount of money you will need to be financially independent. If at a minimum you are satisfied with your existing lifestyle, then take your gross income, subtract taxes, all current liabilities, and existing amount you currently save. What’s left is your current lifestyle.

For simplicity let’s say you currently gross $60,000, but after taxes and other expenses your existing lifestyle requires 30k a year. If you plan to retire and live for 30 years in your retirement you would need to accumulate $2.6 million dollars. The assumption being that you planning to retire in 30 years, are obtaining a minimum of a 5% return on your investment, and battling a 3% inflation rate. You would need to set aside over $600,000 today if you wanted to secure such a retirement.

There are other elements to consider. And that pertains to your risk management. It’s likely you are getting your health, life, long term care, and disability insurances provided by for your employer. If not, then you should add another 25% to your existing lifestyle because when you are trading for a living you have to take care of those expenses on your own and it does not come cheap. This can be considerably costly if you or an existing family member are unhealthy or uninsured. If that is the case you will need to set aside a considerable sum of money to absorb such risks.

And I don’t want to hear how your spouse has these insurances covered through his/her employment. Don’t be a d*ck. Retire your spouse first or retire together. Don’t be the @sshole that gets to chill out at home when you send your spouse out to support your nonsense.

This is your life and it is serious business. Don’t be a fool. You are already nuts because you trade currency, but for the love of all that is holy, don’t don’t put your family at jeopardy. Even if you are single don’t be stupid. It’s not worth the risk, even for yourself.

Therefore, do not trade for a living until you have amassed a bankroll that allows you to set aside the net present value of your retirement. Thereafter, have two years of lifestyle income set aside at a rate that would include taxes and your insurance expenses. And finally, you can take a dump on your boss’ desk when the monthly withdrawal rate from your account can cover your lifestyle expenses making sure you leave in enough gains to allow the account and your withdrawal size to keep up with a 3% inflation rate and whatever amount you want your bankroll to further grow on an annual basis.

Trading can be stressful enough. And that stress only exponentially compounds when your ability to financially survive is taken into consideration.

If you are interested in knowing what it personally takes for you to go pro, feel free to message me or reply below. I can help to work out the numbers for you so you know what you’re up against in this crazy game we play.

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Hey Mastergunner!

Great post

Is there an age at which trading becomes too stressful to handle? i have heard that it has a life span?

That’s entirely subjective. I spend maybe 15 minutes a day actually trading, but my mind frequently returns to Forex around the clock.

I personally don’t care to do this my entire life. I don’t love trading. In fact, I’m bored by it.

When you’re done, you’re done.

So how long have you been relying on forex as your main source of income mastergunner?

If you don’t have a passion for trading would it be fair to say that your more passionate about writing?

I do not trade for a living, nor would I care to rely on it as a main source of income.

So how do you plan on helping someone go “pro” then…? Just accounting…?

Yes. Writing is a passion for me. I’ve been published previously and am finishing up some current writing projects. Writing, I do for me and would do so without any financial benefit returned to me.

I would never trade Forex simply for the fun of it. If there wasn’t financial reward to be had, my time would be better spent elsewhere.

Banker928, stop being an ass. I would love to learn from MasterGunner

You want to learn how to be a “pro” from someone who is not… That is your prerogative.

Yes as I concluded in my post, if someone was curious how much they personally needed to set aside, I’d run the numbers for them. Not everyone is fluent with a financial calculator.

Sorry how many books have you written? Exactly, I didn’t think so.

You go MasterGunner!

Define “pro”.

I have made a choice to not trade for a living. That is not the same as not being able to.

Ok… So this is more related to retirement planning?

As many as you and gunner have combined no doubt :wink:

I actually have written a book on fractal geometry and price action in Forex markets so i do know how much discipline it takes!

Cool! Can you send me a link to a digital copy? Would love to read it!

No. Retirement planning is far more intricate than just giving someone a static sum of money they need to achieve.

This is directly related to giving traders an expectation of what their financial goals should be if they desire to trade for a living without the stress market variance can bring.

Have I offended you with my offering to type some numbers into an overpriced calculator?

Here is the Link: Forex Academy

Told you so :stuck_out_tongue:

So what difference is there if I make 100k annually from trading versus 100k salary from my job… How would the financial goals be different in either case?