[quote=“Falstaff, post:18, topic:133936”]
"The SNOWFLAKE generation, who weaponized HYPERSENSITIVITY " Perhaps ?[/quote]
Take for example the current campaign of Evangelising Vegans, hunting in packs anyone connected with dairy farming screaming “RAPE”, “MURDER”, “SLAVERY” in prolonged attacks and baying in a way, which would make any pack of hounds chasing a fox pale into insignificance.
These so-called pacifiscts are getting their “jollies” as hunters, in just the same way as any woodsman hunting deer. Their weapons may be different, but their drives and motivatios, the “Thrill of the chase” are all there. As indeed is “the kill” !
We are seeing it too in this “PC” drive for “politeness” wherein it is ok to speak absolute drivel, but it is NOT Ok to point out that someone is doing so, because that is “Rude” - Rudeness, or perceived rudeness now seems to be one of the worst crimes one can commit
@Falstaff
in my opinion, you know what i think is also a contributing factor.
Back in my day 70’s and 80’s if you were a special little snowflake and hypersensitive and you wanted to be a little princes, you got a smack in the head hehe (Good old day… huh)
if you were a goose, your dad gave you a slap in the head or you got a hiding
if you stole something the police officer back in the day would give you a slap in the head or pull you by the ear, then he’d call your dad and you get a slap in the head and a hiding hehe
then your dad would give the cop a 6 pack for catching his son in the act and not giving him a criminal record hehe
we had a NATURAL PROCESS in our day, didn’t we
things were sorted out and it was good
today , people in front of their computers (Little keyboard warriors if you will) show utter and total disrespect and have no consequences from it
i think that plays a very big part in it
a lot of these youngsters need a good slap in the head in my opinion.
back in the day if you did something stupid, you were told you were stupid and YOU SHUT UP AND TOOK IT
and never repeated it
these days , they want to argue
Very interesting times indeed. It’s a puzzling phenomenon but of course one that didn’t happen for no good reason. I feel this is also the consequence of having more freedom to speak up. It’s not just authoritative figures who are listened to now.
Either way though, going back to the forums, my philosophy is always to type or post only what I can actually say in real life. I honestly can’t call anyone crazy names in real life even when I’m really angry - I don’t know if you guys could haha but I figure if you can, that is how you end up in bar fights — which truly, I’ve only seen in movies. Ha. I’m not gangster enough to witness one.
But I digress! I’m saying we don’t all have to be creepily polite. But rudeness I feel is so unnecessary. But then again… rudeness is so subjective also.
We used to have values like Integrity, Honesty, Truth, Good Faith and Respect !
None of that seems to account for anything at all now - Just so long as nobody can accuse you of “being rude”
Here is a Post from another thread, which is an exchange - just accepted as “normal” - It would have caused riots in my day to think that “those in power” had so little integrity as to resort to the implied tactics here !
[quote=“MrDE, post:14, topic:134983”]
. @LauChoKun is a bot. a program reading text and screening for a fitting reinforcing comment. you are talking to a machine mate. like talking to your kitchens toaster or microvawe.[/quote]
Just to mention that in the days of real debate, we used to shut up when we had said all that needed to be said - Nowadays, the only things which matter are “Drowning” any good points the “opposition makes” in a sea of verbosity - irrespective of whether it makes sense or not - just keep heaping words on it !
AND Always get the last word - Bore them, confuse them, change your tactics, resort to full “About faces” - but state that it was always “what you meant” and how “you were joking” - etc etc etc
BUT NEVER STOP - without you get the “LAST WORD” in !
i have to admit when i heard this i was suprised… for the record, didn’t really know what to say but i was also heading out the door and was in a hurry
so maybe my comment came across as heartless or "Normal"
but i was certainly suprised that bots can just talk to us on this site.
Yeah I saw that thread. It’s sad how that developed but I was cheering you on (silently obviously ha) for taking the high road and actually being helpful. Some folks just have too much time and snark to give out. They’re pretty generous with it haha. Staying classy with these people around can be challenging.
So true. Nowadays, I just leave people be. I used to go in there and “fight to the death” but what’s the use. All it does is stress me out. Not worth it!
Hey B, it has to do with self assurance and reliance. Many today are raised thinking that your self worth is related to how others view you. Look at the emotional blowups people have when they are down voted, unliked, unfriended etc. They act like they have just been diagnosed with Stage 4 C cancer. The dependence of young people on others views of them make them susceptible to propaganda and peer pressure, getting them to do things that they would not do on their own.
The teaching today is that everyone’s opinion is not only valuable but valid. The validity comes not from the reasoning or the truth of the opinion, but only by the fact that the person has an opinion, and that opinion should be regarded as valid no matter what. This is one of the defining traits of the 21st century, caused by the rise of social media in peoples lives.
Also Ria, hello. It is not about a person being emotional, it is about controlling those emotions. One place to start in you everyday life is to care less about what people say about you, or to you, and focus more on personal development, critical thinking, logic, and discernment, these things will help you to be able to trade far more than emotional IQ.
yeah they are the TLDR generation that forgot to to read the word “SELF” in “Self Worth”
My Granpappy had a saying, it was as follows
Each man is 3 men
The one he see’s himself as
The one that people see him as
The one he is
well. i suppose it didn’t orignate from my grandad, but he said it a lot.
but the saying was not
how many likes he has
How many facebook friends he has (even though he actually doesn’t have any real friends)
how many twitter followers he has
i want to muck around for a bit if i can
ok this can be used in certain ways
i mean
Picture this…
You’re in a school yard, the bully comes up to you and its’ like… “COME ON THEN… YOU WANNA GO”
and the kid is like… “OK. LET’S GO RUNT”
BULLY PUSHES KID IN THE CHEST
KID LOOKS AT BULLY WITH A PISSED OFF LOOK
PULL OUT SMARPHONE AND HITS THE DISLIKE BUTTON
Bully walks away in shame LMFAO CAN YOU IMAGINE
OR
Mom and dad say , don’t take drugs, Pot is for losers etc
kid goes out with friends, decides to have a cone
Mum and Dad get on Facebook and Dislike and Update their status LMFAO
KID COMES HOME AND SAYS
I’M SORRY MUM, THAT WAS STUPID OF ME
hehehehehehehehehehehehe
Now i ask you , could you imagine what songs like this would turn into if this concept was actually real
I don’t think this is necessarily true. It’s just part of growing up in this society where everyone’s constantly on social media. The “attention economy” is what they call it. Even if your parents teach you that your self-worth shouldn’t be dictated by other people, if you and your friends are on social media 24/7 looking for approval from people you barely know, it doesn’t matter in the end. Unless your parents have super strong parenting skills.
A bit off topic: not sure if you’ve spoken to kids lately but I have nephews and nieces aged 12-16 and man. It’s crazy how they use it. I read this Wired article first, then asked them. The article was pretty spot on. I found it to be such an interesting read.
Hey P, well it depends on the families. I have loads of nephews, nieces, grand kids, that are on social media, and they are not affected by what people say.
I do have a niece that was subjected to “cyber bullying”, she is very artistic, so, very sensitive. Mom and Dad helped her through it, and my wife and I had an opportunity to help in seeing herself as an individual and not part of a “collective” where the “tyranny of the majority” rules. So there is that.
Parents must realize that their children are being forced onto Mark Zuckerbergs “Plantation”, where he, as the Social Master reigns supreme. In general most social media sites are not properly overseen, and can be dangerous places for the Youts
Your family seems very lucky to be surrounded by such supportive parents/aunts/uncles. I am happy to hear stories like yours.
Not to say my nieces/nephews don’t have a good support system but I suppose we can just chalk that up to “people are different.” I got my nieces to 'fess up about some of their social media use and that’s where I found out how “likes” really mean a ton to these kids.
An example: these kids delete photos that don’t hit a certain number of likes. To them it’s a clear signal that their post is not likeable. I wanted to get to the nitty grittyy of their internet usage to get a better feel for how it matters to them.
Did you get to ask them what platforms they’re on? That’s always my #1 question when I meet younger folks. Very fascinating.
Basic rules of behavior still work , doesn’t matter whether that’s internet or real life. Standarts of behavior start to develop
in childhood so if parents didn’t make to explain the basics – a person behaves like a rude thing
I think it is far higher than other social media platforms I have participated in, and that is a good sign. Thank you for the link to the article on EI.
I can associate with all of these, but I find this to be top of the list:
“One of the hallmarks of self-awareness is a self-deprecating sense of humor”
Of all the people I have worked with (and that is a lot more than most as a contractor) the ones I have found particularly effective are those who, in the right circumstances, can make themselves out to be the most idiotic or stupid, and laugh it off. Every one of us makes mistakes, and on a Forex forum 99% of members do or should know that. It is part of the success secret of Forex - you have to lose sometimes and can’t win all the time.
The ones I have found to be most dangerous to work colleagues are those who:
Claim to be the owner or originator of anything that looks like success and go out of their way to disown any small mistake they may have made, taking great care to find anyone else to blame but themselves. You see this on Babypips a lot from newer members. Posts like “my broker scammed me” or “they stopped me out of my trade when the market never went that low”.
An intelligent friend of mine once said to an inexperienced telecoms project manager “Victoria - if you want to work in a hospital you have to get used to the sight of blood”. This was in response to a question “Hey Mansfield - What’s a riser?” A fair question from a layperson, but for anyone in telecoms, it’s a corker.
I am a member of our local Next Door forum. Though there are many, many helpful members who will go out of their way to help a neighbour, there are some really vicious members who I think I would want to avoid like the plague. Instead of helping members who ask innocent questions, they seem intent on wading in to bully and embarrass the poor members who are often victims of verbal abuse already.
My sister used to say:
If you don’t agree with what someone else is saying, walk a mile in their shoes. And if they are really comfortable at least you have a mile head start if you want to run away with them.
