30 Pips A day Keeps the your money at bay

Hey Keziri

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Hi KEZIRI, Iā€™d be interested to see what youā€™re seeing, as I have just posted an NZD/USD chart myself.

KEZIRI

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This is what I haveā€¦

2 bearish patterns which can be timed (not perfect) - crab 60m + gartley 4h



Hellooo. :wink:

TMB is probably more qualified to answer, but thereā€™s lots of questions you can ask yourself Keziri, whole host of factors really-

  • what did i change? (if you were ā€˜successfulā€™ before)
  • am i doing anything differently to the start of the year?
  • how many trades in a row am I willing to lose?
  • am i using ā€˜manageableā€™ leverage?

Do some more study would be my advice, and/or go back to demo account with lower leverage until you get consistent again.

I canā€™t speak for how you trade the method as weā€™ve all got our own nuances, but these patterns work in all markets/timeframes (Iā€™ve commented about this about 2 weeks before).

Of course not every trade will win. But over the long run (hundreds/thousands of trades, really!!) you should come out on top with proper money management and leverage. Remember, just because there is an edge in no way guaranteeā€™s success.

HTH, inspira

Hey Inspira

Interesting in deed. If I have to be honest, Iā€™m not overly keen on your X placement on the hourly chart. I know the X does not have to always be at an extreme, but it should be at a swing top, and Iā€™m afraid your placement wouldnā€™t constitute a swing top for me. But weā€™ll see how it pans out.
On the 4 hourly you are playing the pattern as a Gartley, and that seems like a valid play to me. Although personally I would be a little cautious of this set-up, especially when I see better convergences higher up that would validate the pattern as a Butterfly. Still, it could work out, but it wouldnā€™t surprise me if there is a muted reaction at this level (your Gartley D point) before price continues on up.
Just my humble opinion though. Be interesting to see how it does play out in the end.

Sorry 1MFK1, I donā€™t have time to post a chartā€¦

Not sure where your C point is or your entry/exit, but your chart looks good. C for me was at the large bearish candle to the left of where yours is (each feed may be different though).

There is convergence at the D of 1.414XA (or 150XA) and 2.24BC (which is enough for me). These are minor fib ratiosā€¦ also lines up with prior S/R.

If you entered on the ā€˜double-dipā€™ it will have less chance of working out. You may have also set your stops too tight.

In a bit of a hurry but hope this helps,

  • inspira.

If weā€™re playing by the Carney rules, a 0.786 retracement at the B point would signal a potential Butterfly in the makeing. A Gartleyā€™s B point should only retrace to the 0.618 of XA. But hey, rules are made to be brokenā€¦right? :slight_smile:
As has been said already, everyone is entitled to tweak the system according to what best suits them. If youā€™re profitable, then one canā€™t really argue against your methods. So more power to ya buddy :slight_smile:

Hey Pleiadian, Iā€™m always happy to have a 2nd set of eyes, so thankyou!

LOL, I agree it doesnā€™t look pretty on the 60m - Iā€™m actually looking at it on the 30m and itā€™s only a little better even though symmetry is good. And yeah, the swing top is very touch 'n go.

All in all, both timeframes combined make up enough points of interest for me to initiate a first trade.

Yep, letā€™s seeā€¦ :wink:

Good on ya buddy. Wishing ya loads of pips if you take the trade :slight_smile:

Hey 1MFK!

Your set-up looks fine to me, but as Inspira noted, I too would move the C point back a few candles. Granted, in this case it doesnā€™t make that much of a difference.
As it happens, I too took this trade and got stopped out. I donā€™t know exactly where your entry was or where you placed your stop-loss, but itā€™s always worth remembering that not every set-up is a winner. Even the most profitable traders have losing trades, itā€™s part of the business.
Even though I took this trade, I personally prefer the convergence to be a little tighter than it was in this case. But you are on the right tracks, and if you keep it up you [I]will[/I] start hitting more winners than losers. Having said that, you can still be very profitable with more losers than winners, but that all depends on your money management skills (n vital aspect of trading that is often overlooked).

Hey TMB,

In the early days of this thread you posted a number of time slots during the day when fake-outs are more common, along with some other time slots when the the true D appears to form. Do you still find these times slots holding up?

LOL, yeah I didnā€™t know what to call itā€¦ either a gartley variation or butterfly variation. In the end a GV due to D < X. :stuck_out_tongue:

Believe me, I have a laminated poster of Carneyā€™s harmonic patterns right next to me and Iā€™m constantly staring at itā€¦ bat and butterfly cutouts in the works ;p

Yeah, itā€™s all about making finer and finer distinctionsā€¦ which rules to break, when to break them etcā€¦

BTW, 5+ hours later and Iā€™m still short the Kiwi with 2 scaled ordersā€¦ tough exercise in patience this one. Almost stopped out earlier but itā€™s still hanging on.

Yippeeeee, we have a new pattern, a GV Lol. Nice call Inspira, I like it lol.

Yep, the Carney rules? Well dem aint de only rules :slight_smile:

As for your Kiwi trade, really hope it works out for ya buddy. And youā€™re right, sometimes this game can try the patience of a saint. Hang on in there.

the nezusd is on now


I was just wondering if anyone has been consistantly succesfull trading these patterns. if some of the more experienced traders of this ā€˜systemā€™ could post their pip count for the past 5- 10 patterns i would really appreciate it. Just looking to gain some extra confidence in these patterns becuase most of my trades have been loosers.

Also how do you guys position your stop losses ? 30 pip stop ? At the next Fib Level ?

Hi Dan89

Iā€™ll be the first to admit Iā€™m still learning this system (only came across it two weeks ago). It can take a little while to get to grips with a new strategy, and then a bit more time to learn how to tweak it for yourself in a manner that better suits your trading style.
Iā€™ve been trading for years, but only recently on currencies, and only two weeks with this system. From day one I was placing trades with this system (not always a wise thing to do, but I do have plenty of trading experience behind me).
After two weeks, I have 33% winners against 66% losers, BUT my account is up 20%.
Iā€™ll be sticking with this system, and I hope with a little more experience trading it Iā€™ll gain a better win to loss ratio. Donā€™t forget, money management is a HUGE aspect of any trading.
The idea is to minimize the losses and maximize the winners. Thatā€™s how I can still be up 20% even with a win rate of only 33%.
Donā€™t give up on it too easily. Anything thatā€™s worth having always takes a little time and effort. Experience is priceless. At least be aware that it most certainly is possible to profit trading this or a similar (harmonic) system.
As mentioned earlier, not every pattern works out, and not every pattern should be traded for that matter. By putting time into it youā€™ll discover for yourself what does and doesnā€™t work according to your set-ups.
Hereā€™s wishing you all the very best.

EUR JPY 1 Hour. Convergence at both the 1.00 and 1.272. There is also some resistance at the 1.272 level but the 1.000 lines up with the .618 of XA, which is a big retracement point. Decisions, decisions.

Wow. You must place your stops pretty close if your winners are that much bigger than your losers. I have been placing them at the next fib level. I am going to re-evaluate that though since the fib levels get wider as you go, hence your losers will always be bigger than your winners. Big no-no, unless you have a spectacular win %. How close do you put your stops?

[QUOTE=Pete Schweaty;216212]EUR JPY 1 Hour. Convergence at both the 1.00 and 1.272. There is also some resistance at the 1.272 level but the 1.000 lines up with the .618 of XA, which is a big retracement point. Decisions, decisions.

Hi Pete,

I notice you use Marketscope, as do I. For some reason FXCM have set some of the fib levels slightly different to the norm. Open up your fib tool and delete the 0.764 level, then add the 0.786 level. This may help you decide which level on your EUR/JPY chart you wish to trade.