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i hope you got this move…i hate retesting …it was all news


By radofx at 2010-09-28

Looks like I was wrong:(

This one better work.:slight_smile:

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It dropped over 100 points from where I called it…

Hey guys im new to this and just wanting to know if i drew this right?
Eur/usd 4 hour
( x ) = 1.33334 {6/08/2010 at 23:00}
( a ) = 1.25853 {24/08/2010 at 19:00}
( b ) = 1.29197 {6/09/2010 at 15:00}
( c ) = 1.26595 {8/09/2010 at 15:00}

So by that i gathered that " D " would be around 1.29848
Am i wrong? it would be great if i could get some feed back thanks guys.:smiley:


Hi there Scaws,

You chart looks good to me. While the pattern failed, it did however reverse around 140 pips from your D point. I would now keep an eye on the 2.00XA level, as this ties in nicely with a straight forward AB=CD pattern on the weekly chart… However, looking at the weekly chart I can see several possibilities for the EUR/USD to climb even higher than the level I have marked.
Here’s my EUR/USD 4 hour chart and a weekly chart.



Hey thanks for the quick reply.
So i did draw the pattern right, i remember at the beginning of the thread it says that some people draw the pattern to fit the price.
I just want to make sure i’m doing things right.

And how did you get the 2.00?
was this with another pattern?

Again thank you so much for helping me out. :smiley:

Not sure if this is right but i think it is.
to me it looks good.

What you think?


The chart you posted was good.
As for the 2.00XA level: I would normally have looked at the 1.618XA before the 2.00 level, but it’s always a good idea to keep and eye on the bigger picture, and the 2.00 level ties in better with the weekly chart.
Another point to keep in mind: If you are following a Carney method, most times the XA level is the extreme level of the PRZ, so on this chart that would favour the 2.00 over the 1.618. But this is not a critical point by any means.

What pair is this, and on what time frame?

Its on the Eur/jpy 15 min

I have a couple of questions for you Scaws:

  1. Are you following a TMB style or Carney style, or both?
  2. What fibs do you plot to decide where your D point might fall?

Here’s my EUR/JPY 15 min chart. Following the Carney method, the B is the defining point and this would suggest a D point around the 0.886XA level.


I’m trying to follow the TMB method.
in the videos i saw him use the distance from a-b = the distance from c-d (which is went to come close to the .500 fib line i think?)
is that right cause that is what i have been doing.
I don’t mean to be a pain i’m just trying to lean.

No worries Scaws, you are certainly not being a pain :). We all have to start somewhere.
Okay, for TMB’s method, this is what you should do:
Plot your fibs from X to A. Then plot another fib measurement from B to A, and then move this fib across to the C point (so that the fib level that was at the A point is now at your C point). These are the fibs TMB uses.
Now look for any areas of tight convergence between the two fibs, the tighter the better, and this is where TMB would place his D point. Now if price closes beyond the D point fib level, then TMB would say that the pattern has failed. Also bare in mind that TMB nearly always favours the intial swing after the A point to determine his B point.

Hope this helps.

Ok so i was doing most things right.
So i had the right idea with the moving of the fib levels but i didnt plot the “d” at a point of convergence.

and TMB uses the inital swing for his ‘a’ which clearly i did not.
Thank you so much this has been a great help.

so what is this carney method? is there some where i could read about it?

TMB uses the intial swing AFTER the A point for his B point.
As for the Carney method, I would highly recommend you take a look at Carney’s website, Harmonictrader, and download his first book free in pdf format, ‘The Harmonic Trader’, which you’ll find on the fromt (home) page.

I have located and downloaded the pdf ( 300 PAGES!!!) it looks like im in for some reading!:smiley:

it never hurts to learn stuff tho.

I just curious are you trading live or demo?

because TMB did very well using this method live.

300 pages, but a lot of the space is used up with chart examples, so not as daunting as it may first appear to be.
I’m trading a live account, and doing pretty well. Up about 25% in four weeks :slight_smile:
I’ve been trading for the last sixteen years, but only a year in currencies. I came across this thread about a month ago and have used harmonics successfully for that period. I have now turned to this style of trading for my other accounts in stocks and futures.

WOW.
So i think i’m talking to the right guy then.
25% in four weeks you sir are awesome.

1)Has that been with sensible lot sizes or with more then 2% of your account.

  1. Your my idol.

  2. do you make your living my trading or is it just a part time thing?

  3. im still shocked that im talking to someone with such experience.:eek: 16 years

…so many questions to ask