Going offshore to escape the CFTC

Funding Talent CEO

20/30 ppl saying they didn’t get their money from FT and excusing her fraud, Owner of the company She is a lady go from being a registered nurse and “stylist” to owning a prop firm. She doesn’t know anything about trading. Her skills are listed as nursing, marketing, and fashion. There are so many complaints on Twitter about the company, either they didn’t get paid or their account was closed for stupid reasons and they didn’t get paid.

Best Fx Prop firm s FTMO🙌
and my second trusted Prop firm is MFF🙌

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That woman is a disaster. They also hastily changed all their offerings that people flocked to them for. Tight spreads, biweekly payouts, zero commissions, etc. All of those are gone and people are pissed.

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what are their new rules everybody talking about, i’m to lazy to look it up

Have seen a lot of negative claims about this company. Needless to say, wouldn’t touch them with a 10-foot pole.

Just saw this one today:

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I just heard about their 10 second rule, that’s crazy

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Evidently, there are also claims floating around that the owner has admitted that trades are not copied to a live account, and that the company payouts are funded by lost challenges. Cannot attest to any of these claims, obviously, as I chose to stay far away some time ago.

Yes. This is a deal-breaker for me, no matter who it is.

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so they might of been scamming from the beginning

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Their biz model was zero spreads, zero commissions, bi weekly payouts. Too many people made a ton of money off them as a result. Then they would challenge those accounts and or not pay or offer a small percentage. Absolute hot mess. Now they yanked those offerings, spreads are awful, commissions added and monthly payouts only.

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Funding Talent Drawdown Rules | Daily and Max Loss

is this the same as FTMO RULES?

The CEO admitted to it in a meltdown via instagram post in early April.

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Then the CEO makes a claim that there is no “10 second rule” on their Discord server :upside_down_face:

Seems like they are just scrambling tbh…

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so let me get this straight

their business model is to make money off subscription fees and never have your trades go to the market because most of their traders are losers and the ones that do make a profit they pay them from the money they make from subscription fees.

sound like a legal Pozi scheme

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Kinda, and it seems that the wheels are falling off. People flocked to them for their tight spreads, even near zero for BTC when others are fairly wide. People started gaming it as a result.

There’s a chap on FF that ran an algo and churned up to 500K profit on a 100k account. The algo wouldn’t work on any other prop firm like FTMO, MFF, etc. Why? because their spreads were faked.

EDIT: Link added to FF https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/13643938#post13643938

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Pure clown show… Due to the video below they admitted months ago that they pay out based on revenue from challenges…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOMsMADCA

No commissions + tight spreads + news trading allowed with perfect pricing on a demo account vs actual live market = disaster. They likely changed the rules because they didn’t have the money to payout everyone.

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in other words, they don’t have the financial backing to fund live accounts like FMTO so they started this business to make money off subscription fees and not to fund live accounts.

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Pretty much ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it’s not a bad business model if the payouts don’t overshadow subscription fees, but sooner or later the payouts will overtake the fees and you will have to shut down. just imagine how much money they made from this legal Ponzi Scheme

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To be fair, this does not exactly admit to any wrong-doing (e.g. Ponzi scheme). She claims that most payouts are given from the company’s pocket (not all), which is not surprising, considering the low success rates.

I will explain why, using a similar response that I gave regarding FTMO and the claim that they, and all others, might be following a similar model (this response was in reference to a BBC documentary that was shared on Facebook):

The video addresses the issue regarding FTMO’s FAQ and client agreement that states that FTMO traders will be given a demo account in order to trade virtual funds. Eventually, the revelation that demo accounts are connected to a live trading account, where real money is made, is briefly discussed.

A potentially important point that has not been considered is the seemingly-intentional legal language that is used. Such language could indicate that the go-between structure is by design as an effort to mitigate legal loopholes that prohibit trading for traders that operate from a restrictive jurisdiction, that would otherwise not allow the broker-trader relationship.

By acting as a go-between, this limitation can be avoided, along with all of the red tape and complications that are typically involved in money management and finance-related services. Instead, FTMO can establish contracts with traders using simple, independent contractor agreements without the need for special licensing and regulatory compliance, since FTMO traders are not actually trading real money and FTMO is not acting as a broker (very important discernment), but are simply contracting services that act more like signal providers, where FTMO can then decide if they want to take the trade or not.

That being said, it would not be unreasonable for FTMO to structure their trading in such a way that only trades from consistently-profitable traders are being pushed through to a live account, not just for the sake of the aforementioned, but also as a risk-mitigation effort. It would also not seem unreasonable if fund allocation on the live-account leaned more heavily towards these higher-success-rate ‘signals’, where signals from smaller traders with less-desirable success rates are completely ignored; which could also explain why they prohibit similar strategies across single-trader accounts, public EA’s and/or through multi-trader copiers etc…

FTMO has figured out a way to bring signal providers to them and has set up a system to weed out the losers while only keeping the absolute best. Not only that, but they have figured out a way for the signal providers to PAY them, instead of the other way around, all while minimizing their losses significantly (if not, entirely).

The important point to note, regardless of what you believe to be true, is that the skills that you develop as a trader are yours, and no government, broker or prop firm can take that away from you. If you are a consistently-profitable trader, then you do not need FTMO or any other group to find success over the long-term.

Also, as long as these prop firms continue to pay out, then it is all good in the neighborhood. If people start making claims about payout rejections, then it is simple…you prepare to readjust (since you should already have backup plans, no matter who you are trading with).

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Can’t help but wonder if she is right about one thing, “no forex prop firms are authorized to give direct access to US/UK/ Canada clients”?

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And really that’s all that matters. I’ve been funded with FTMO for months now and have zero complaints. FT’s behavior has been abysmal and many are raising their voices as a result. It seems to be going from bad to worse. That IG post the CEO made was after they were dragged into court in Nova Scotia. Apparently it didn’t go well for them.

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