HFT High Frequency Trading bot - BROKER?

Hi @polat06, I have replied yours.

It’s not advisable if you are not familiar with the concept. Make sure, you are careful to try such thing to good broker. Hardly can find a replacement. If the broker is not so good, blacklisted you, it’s easier to find a replacement. Blacklisted from a top tier broker, will be a big no no for your trading future. :smile:

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@TYGMedia that’s so interesting, would you give me the tutorials to do it , here or privately.

Before I discuss more, you have to read through the ToS from a brokers. Bellow is ICMarkets.

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As you can see, HFT is one of the techniques has risk to be suspended.
I won’t say I do HFT on ICMarkets. ICMarkets is one of the best brokers. I won’t do something funny and got suspended. I will try to obey their rule as much as I can. :sweat_smile:

The key to do HFT, most likely something to do with Arbitrage, News Trading, Low Market Volatility and few others.
The most robust HFT comes from arbitrage. It’s known as the devilish art of making money. But it’s also the easiest method to get caught.

If you know the way to do it, obviously, you can’t share to others. Reason, when a broker know how you do it, they will patch their system then, you no longer able to earn money from the hole.

When you know the hole, you need to use it wisely. Don’t be too greedy, or it will get noticeable and no longer available.

I will share you my past method, so you can imagine how to do it. I wont tell you frankly the method I’m using now. I don’t know if there is broker here. Or you are also owning a broker :face_with_hand_over_mouth:. If so, I will lost my money engine.

Around 2020, it was an era of arbitrage party in cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency Centralize Exchange (CEX) were not connected well, so there were many tokens were sold with different prices. Example CEX A sold DOGE from 1.5 USD, CEX B sold 1 USD.

By having the different, we can create a script to monitor price from different exchange. I used python at that time. Monitor few CEX looked for the cheapest asking price, bought them as much as I could and sold them to the highest bidder.

If I monitor 5 CEX, 1 CEX need 1k USD to operate, I will need 5k, 1k for each CEX.

The procedure will be done this way:

  1. Look for highest bidder and lowest asking price. If it’s not identified, just wait.
  2. When buy and sell CEX has been identified, system sell DOGE to highest bidder. Keep buying from lowest asking price, transfer to DOGE to highest bidder wallet. Continue as many as possible. In the past, the opportunity window would last for around 15 minutes. During this 15 minutes, we could do at least 50 - 100 rounds trade, depends on network quality. a round gave profit around 50 to 300 USD. Can you imagine ?
  3. After sell token, USDT from selling will be sent back to source wallet to buy the token again. When the token was ready, it would be sent back for higher bidder.

This is the simple HFT was done in crypto during 2020. You can do this after you know all the cost, latency, window opportunity available. Now this method hardly can be done, since all CEX will do arbitrage to each other, it makes market becomes more efficient.

Can we do this in CFD? Yes of course to some degree and a little improvisation. You need to monitor the price movement, look for spread. Look for the weaknesses. You need to create a script to compare price and find out when the weak spot appear, and how to make use of it.

It’s not an easy way. I need years to find out the spot. When the spot disappear, I have to find other method again. So, the method always changes. You need to know how to code and analyze market properly. :slight_smile:

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@TYGMedia I am not a broker , I am just a simple person trying to learn ,you can give me your method with ic markets in private, I will never share with any person , I am waiting all these 6 years searching to find someone who can help me to do arbitrage or HFT , I send you message brother.

@TYGMedia tell us about tick scalping in IC MARKETS mate

Hi @virtu0s0, I won’t talk here since it is against broker’s policy.

The clues are: It’s sensitive to particular server, trading time and news. You have to monitor they price movement closely. If you are a programmer at least MQL4/5, you should know how to monitor it. Get the data, write to file, analyze the data thoroughly.

The weaknesses keeps moving, so you need to have skill to catch it for profit. If you don’t know, it’s better to stay away.

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Hello sir, I need advice from your experience in the field of HFT trading. I have a robot that trades on the index US100 US30 and several other pairs and does not use the arbitrage strategy, but it wins in the demo account and loses in the real account. Even if I run both accounts, the demo and the real, the entry price for deals is different. I spoke to IC Market support and their response was that I need a VPS. I tried a VPS with 8 cores and 32 RAM, but the problem was not solved. Please, if you have a solution, direct me to what I can do.

Hi @majid46, I don’t know your HFT’s method. It’s difficult for me to give any advice.
HFT needs market imperfection / anomaly. Using demo account, there is no imperfection. So you can never test HFT on demo account.

You need good VPS to run HFT. It also need good connection to broker’s server. For example IC Markets’ server at New York, so VPS near NY will be the best.

You probably depend on slippage on demo server. In real market, slippage is different.
Developing a good HFT bot will need great sacrifice. You have to use real account instead of demo account. The same reason no body want to disclose their HFT secret. :slight_smile:

@majid46 Use ultrafx vps , their ping is less than 1ms it can reach 0.1ms , maybe it’s useful , and tell us about the results

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Where can I buy the HFT Bot

How can i get such a bot?

Hey @TYGMedia I really love your way of explaining things, i am a programmer myself and into trading too and as we all know that these two are the most brain consuming things known to mankind i would say😂. I also learned about the hft and it was fascinating to me from programming perspective like the different methods of hft that you mentioned, i truly understand your consent and BP’s policy but i would love to talk to you, its rarely that you find someone who is into trading and as well as coding and can combine both of them!
I love to break rules like from coding perspective and i wanna make this hft ■■■■ real and usable for as short and long period of time and then upgrade for the next patch and keep going on!
DM me plz if you wish and i will see you there !:man_technologist:

Hi @k.xau, welcome to Babypips. :slight_smile:

That’s good you are a software engineer. What are your programming languages ? :smiley:

I love trading and programming. This lead me to what I am today.
About HFT, I don’t really want to share the method, as it’s considered illegal for some brokers. I had experiences suspended by few brokers. And I wont be able to trade with them anymore. So, explaining HFT too much, wont be wise, as it will explain how to exploit market inefficiency.

But If you can tell me your HFT method, we can discuss further as we are truly partner in crime :sweat_smile:
I don’t want to be hostile toward brokers. Brokers can be considered your wife. If you make them angry, your life won’t be easy :roll_eyes:

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Lol - it’s certainly a whole “new and different way” of looking at the subject! :sunglasses: :sweat_smile:

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Hi @Heteroskedasticity,

When we are facing problem with broker, the rule number one is Broker is never wrong. If you find a problem with them, remember rule number one. :sweat_smile: So it’s better to be careful. Anyway most good broker I’m using, super duper fine. When I visited them, they serve me well and willing to give their best solution possible to my condition. It will be a heart breaking situation if it turns out I am the one let them down :smiley:

hi @k.xau, you can send me DM first.

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hey @TYGMedia can you DM me i can’t seem to connect with you!

Hi @k.xau, I have “knocked” your inbox :sweat_smile:

@TYGMedia i dont know man babypips policies, i cant seem to find or send any message to anyone! Maybe a new account is not allowed until some point or requirements​:man_technologist::saluting_face:

Hi @k.xau, if that’s the case, you need to upgrade your status by being active in BP. :smiley:
I have sent msg again into your inbox. Curious if it can reach you :grin:

@TYGMedia I’m trying to communicate with you. Can you send me a message. It’s very essential.