Is there anyone who has been vaccinated here?

[peterma]

@Trendswithbenefits

They are currently not accepting blood donations from people who’ve been vaccinated in the US

Figured Red Cross and figured your quote is not factual - the whole debate regarding vaccines is filled with non facts, a bit like in times of war with smoke and mirrors.

Btw, see you mention 'Freedom: - back in the days of the Soviet Union citizens were not permitted to leave the USSR without an exit permit which only the elite such as politicians were granted.

I read that such a system is in place in Australia, if so wondering is it true that the rejection rate is around 50% and that the elite such as politicians have no difficulty in travelling abroad - sounds a bit extreme if true.

[Trendswithbenefits]

@peterma

Figured Red Cross and figured your quote is not factual - the whole debate regarding vaccines is filled with non facts, a bit like in times of war with smoke and mirrors.

The whole debate is filled with non facts!.. What a load of BS, while you have been posting nothing but pontificating tales and wayward responses… “Bit like asking why do you beat your wife” WTF… when responding to a question you have no sensical answer for…

Your latest post displays the usual waffle of those that cannot argue against the facts, figures and links posted in this thread. Have a good look back through the thread… You’ve been on the wrong side of the trade for quite a while now…

@peterma

Btw, see you mention 'Freedom: - back in the days of the Soviet Union citizens were not permitted to leave the USSR without an exit permit which only the elite such as politicians were granted.

Oh, so this makes it all OK then, figured you for a “wannabe” Socialist… The only ideology that is really enjoying the removal of freedoms during this Pandemic…

@peterma

I read that such a system is in place in Australia, if so wondering is it true that the rejection rate is around 50% and that the elite such as politicians have no difficulty in travelling abroad - sounds a bit extreme if true.

Australians have fled the capital cities in their thousands (including moi) to get away from the BS, Hypocrisy and economically destructive lockdowns surrounding this Pandemic…

Citizens here are a little more informed than your Old World brethren…Vaccine hesitancy is increasing and is well over 50% in this country (even during winter!) They need vaccinated numbers above 60% before they can implement travel and social restrictions as they are already plotting in the UK… a true Socialists Dystopia… Peter, you’ll love it!

A similar mass internal migration has happened in the US…
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Edit: Even Dr. John Campbell, the Pontiff of Pontification is starting to question the facts around the need for a mass vaccine program against the use of “out of patent” Antivirals…

Not for the true believers… Because I’m making this YouTube vlog up!

[Falstaff]

@Johnny1974

@Trendswithbenefits

Thank you
Thank you very much for all your due diligence and all your important posts.
People are so brain washed and almost brain dead in these dreadful times.

Ditto - Good work there @Trendswithbenefits

You may be interested in this ;

Which is basically just a link to their real podcast - because it would be taken down and they would probably be barred instantly - I link for your convenience.

{When you get there press “Alternative video player” then click “play” when it pops up. - The whole thing is very interesting - but the first 28 minues or so are highly relevant to this discussion}

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #160 | Lotus Eaters

[Falstaff]

Press me - see if I still work ?

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[peterma]

@Trendswithbenefits

Oh, so this makes it all OK then, figured you for a “wannabe” Socialist…

I don’t understand this quote.

Freedom of movement regardless of the reason is imo is an essential human right - I’m still not sure whether you can leave Aus or not without permission - if it;s true then surely it’s possible to see the parallel with the dictatorship of the USSR?

Btw I’m a wannabe nothing - I believe in what’s right and what is fair whether it’s labelled socialist or capitalist I couldn’t care less.

Another btw - Mao operated the same policy of citizen imprisonment within the country’s borders - he must have taken the idea from Stalin I’d guess.

As for being on the wrong side of the trade - I really hope you guys stay on the right side of the trade - human lives matter.

Take care - and I’m out of this particular conversation - no offence intended.

[Trendswithbenefits]

@peterma

I don’t understand this quote… Take care - and I’m out of this particular conversation - no offence intended.

I’m sure you understood it… Same, look after yourself and your family, StaySafe.

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“Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by 62% compared with no Ivermectin” The data is coming in…

Another Conspiracy Theory slowly debunked by Medical “Experts”… Must be galling to the Clueless.

Ivermectin had been around and proven for years and was outside of Patent, so it could have been manufactured by any nation, cheaply without the need for Pharmaceutical licensing.

Big Pharma wouldn’t support the use of an effective and cheap drug… “It just just doesn’t make cents”

Trump suggested Ivermectin in the early days of the Pandemic… Haters shouted him down, Big Pharma and the WHO socially manipulated and hyped up the fear…

How many people have died due to TDS… Trump Derangement Syndrome… Absolutely appalling!!

I’ll say it again and again… “Alway$, alway$, alway$ follow the money…”

[Student05]

@peterma

Wondering do you have a link to world death stats re covid vac vs all other vacs?.

Hi Peter here is the url for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) sponsored by the CDC. It’s quite easy to use and you can check the data for yourself.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
I think the numbers speak for themselves.
I have pulled data relating to vaccine deaths over the duration of the system which is from 1968. Some years have no reports so they are not included in this graph. An interesting point is that in Dec. 2020 when the ‘vax’ began human trials on a limited basis deaths for that month made up half of the figures for that year (55 out of 113). There are also over 1,300 deaths that are not graphed due to no date being atributed (I don’t know why). It should also be noted that these are only self reported Adverse Reactions (by doctors) and the actual number of deaths are in all likelyhood much greater.

[dudebro]

@Student05

Facts aren’t a popularity contest and the actual deaths from Covid are comparable, indeed slightly less, than a typical flu season and affect the same demographic - obese and/or otherwise immune compromised.

You’re saying the flu has killed close to 4 million worldwide in 15 months before, or over 600K US deaths due to flu over a similar period? Or are you arguing that death counts are overestimated? How are you coming up with that assertion?

@Trendswithbenefits

Without advertising the fact… They are picking and choosing which patients they are accepting Blood Donations from… totally dependant on which vaccine you have had… Just a little suspicious?

I’m donating blood next week. I’ll report back what I experience and whether anything comes up regarding eligibility.

[dudebro]

@Trendswithbenefits

Ivermectin had been around and proven for years and was outside of Patent, so it could have been manufactured by any nation, cheaply without the need for Pharmaceutical licensing.

@Trendswithbenefits. Thanks for the video, but even the presenter states there are “degrees to validity” of the evidence presented in the report. The review and analysis was the culmination of work done by practitioners NOT in a clinical trial setting, and it was done at a small scale. Nowhere near the 100K+ trial participants for Pfizer, Moderna and J&J. Only 3,400 participants.

If this drug were to be fast tracked and hit public distribution, being developed cheaply as its been around for years as you mentioned, would that make a difference to you as to its efficacy claims, as compared to the 3 big vaccines?

Of note, the UK has a trial in place to study further ivermectins inclusion in standard care procedures for COVID patients. We’ll know something eventually.

Join the PRINCIPLE Trial — PRINCIPLE Trial

Thanks for all the info.

[Student05]

@dudebro

How are you coming up with that assertion?

Using CDC data

@dudebro

…are you arguing that death counts are overestimated?

Yes, there is no doubt the death counts are grossly overestimated and often blatantly fraudulent. This was one of the reasons Florida ended the lockdowns and got back to business as usual. Most people are dying from multiple serious conditions with the addition of a positive covid test. The rest are just old folks whose time has come and would previously have been listed as natural causes.

And here’s some good old media manipulation for you.

[Falstaff]

@Student05

the addition of a positive covid test. The rest are just old folks whose time has come and would previously have been listed as natural causes.

Here Bret and Heather speak of teh “Tests” and much much more - which they could not have done on U tub !

Some disturbing stuff here and unfortunately I can’t link to a prticular start time - but if you scroll to minute 21;50 and start there - you’ll find a lot of interesting stuff - which I know you and @Trendswithbenefits and @Johnny1974 are good enough to understand (Apologies to anyone I missed )

Bret is a Vaccine rejecter - but is on a prophylactic dose of Ivermectin - again for reasons he cannot say on u TUB - if you want to hear why they are publishing on Odysee - then roll from teh beginning and listen to what they say about David and Goliath.

The Paper relating to the Israeli vaccinations is particularly interesting as are the OFFICIAL details about “testing” and the PEG “frogs”

Here’s the link - with a space after the https - so you can follow to the source to see some of their other (deleted or risky) stuff if you wish

https ://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f/EvoLens85:9?r=Yjg42kxyngGqr3f585rKxcR1dx7dEpRR

[Falstaff]

Apparently 600 Million “tests” have been lost in UK - This is what really happened to them (mine included)
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[Trendswithbenefits]

Latest shot fired in trying to force Aussies into getting the Jab!.. Cannot make this stuff up!
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Prime Minister Scott Morrison said national cabinet has agreed on a new no-fault indemnity scheme for GPs to give the AstraZeneca vaccine to Australians under the age of 60, who are willing to accept the extremely rare blood clot risk.

“This relates to encouraging Australians to go and chat to their GP about their vaccination, and to have their vaccination administered,” he said.

Now, the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (ATAGI) advice, talks about a preference for AstraZeneca, to be available, and made available to those as preferred for those over 60, but the advice does not preclude persons under 60 from getting the AstraZeneca vaccine.

“And secondly, we are also providing the indemnity scheme for those general practitioners, so they can actively engage with you, and you can make the best decision for your health.”

“To get access to AstraZeneca, if they’re willing to take on that risk, if they wish to go and speak to their doctor and have access to the AstraZeneca vaccine, they can do so. So the answer is yes, they can go and do that.”

ATAGI had advised a preference for under 40s to get the Pfizer vaccine, however, at the moment those under 40 without serious health conditions are only able to get AstraZeneca.
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This shows the danger of the whole COVID Vaccine BS double jab indoctrination.

Australian GP’s are too afraid to give the vaccine’s unless they have Government Indemnity against being prosecuted for serious injury or death as a result of administering the AZ vaccine…

Has never applied for the annual Flu Shot…! I wonder, do they know something their not telling us ?
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New cases over 100k a week, this wave is on track to have increased by 1000% in just 8 weeks.

Hospital admissions and deaths are holding reasonably low trajectories… So why all the lockdown extensions and scaremongering about the massive increase in new cases?

[tommor]

Out of interest, I was talking to a final year degree student last week. This would make her about 21 and I’m sure she knows more 18, 19 and 20-year-olds than I do. She was confident that 100% of the youngsters she knows will want to double-vaccinated asap. In the UK that normally means with the Pfizer vaccine. She assured me these people are champing at the bit to get out into the world, attend clubs, festivals and travel abroad and they can’t wait to get hold of some documentary evidence to let them enjoy these things.

[Trendswithbenefits]

Hey @tommor, in the UK you already have over 60% of the population double jabbed…

That’s nearly 40 million fully vaccinated citizens that are still not allowed to travel freely and still have to abide by all the restrictions just like the un-vaccinated heathens…

It’s not about the vaccination anymore, possibly never was…

In Australia, they (Politician’s) are starting to make a lot of noise about ALL citizens needing a permit just to travel interstate… It’s just getting crazier and crazier…

[tommor]

There are obvious reasons why even double-vaccinated persons are blocked from travelling out of areas with a high incidence of covid, or a high incidence of a particularly transmissible or dangerous strain.

[Trendswithbenefits]

Because the vaccine’s aren’t working… You can still get COVID… You can still spread the Virus…

No one is releasing figures of just how many of the vaccinated (both single and double vaccinated) are in the exploding new cases in the UK.

We’ve had many Nurses and other fully vaccinated front line workers contract the Virus in Australia.

They try to keep in unwraps. Definitely adding to the Vaccine hesitancy in this country…

[tommor]

The vaccine doesn’t work 100%. This has never been a secret.

[Trendswithbenefits]

Ohhhh yes it has, have a read of the posts back in January, February on this thread… Some of the keyboard warriors were channeling the science and health professionals claiming these vaccines were to stop the spread of this Virus…… was a secret then!

Back then figures of 67%, 80% even 92% efficacy’s of these vaccines were being liberally quoted by the manufacturers of these drugs…

It now appears that it’s probably lower than 20% at stopping you catching COVID and even less for containing the spread.

As I stated weeks ago, the only lifeboat the experts had left to cling too was the vaccination program is lowering the acuteness of symptoms and decreasing the death rates.

Let’s see if any of the official sites start to release information on just how many of these new cases are vaccinated citizens…

This will display the real situation on the ground… although I wouldn’t be holding my breath!!

[ria_rose]

I know this thread has taken on a different path but I just wanna share that I got vaccinated yesterday. It was my first shot, and hmm. It’s been almost 24 hours and I still haven’t felt anything weird or painful. Hopefully it stays that way! Stay safe everyone.