Naked November tradelog (scalping)

Hey guys, I’m still here. Taking a step back. I really want to focus on fixing the stop issue. I feel it is the #1 issue holding me back from success. Even if I could trade day after day with constant growth, I would still have that fear of when the next bomb would drop. I don’t want to trade that way. As I may have mentioned, this is the same plateau I reached once before in swing-trading. The activity of trading is very interesting, fun and addictive to me. It’s something I look forward to with great enthusiasm. I feel like I am learning new things all the time, and that underscores in my mind that I am building a destiny. It doesn’t matter how slowly I get there, just that I’m on the right path.

tokyotrader, thank you very much for the suggestion about CBL countback lines. I am studying this now with great interest. It seems to be a perfect fit for my naked trading style. I hope I can get it to work. I did a little research on this and will share that here. It’s actually not Tymen’s method but rather was designed by someone named Daryl Guppy and seems to be very popular for both entries and as a stoploss method. It is said to work on any timeframe (that’s a key I look for when assessing new methods/ideas btw). I’ll post a couple links here if you want to read more:
Very brief overview
PDF with in-depth explanation of how to apply it

Also, I’ve started something new that readers of my journal may be interested in. Lately I’ve been going through my trading books that I’ve collected over the years. I’m re-reading ones that I think were helpful, or that people here on BP have recommended. Currently I’m re-reading “Trading in the Zone” by Mark Douglas. Wow, I can honestly say that I’m getting a lot more out of this than the first time I read it several years ago.

Anyhow, I’ve started Tweeting the key concepts of this book just for fun. It has actually turned out to be immensely helpful, as it causes me to stop and flesh-out these important points from the author. You could follow my Tweets and get the “cliff notes” version of this and other books if you like. It’s a win-win situation. You can follow my tweets here if you like: dusktrader (dusktrader) on Twitter

I like Oanda.

Hi Soma, thanks for the info. I’ll explore ECN level 2 stuff later. For now I want to keep it ultra simple. If I can manage to master trading at the simple level, then I can look at adding new things. For now level 2 would be too much for me to comprehend I think.

I actually trade the London session entirely, but it’s just a few hours before the NY open, so traders may be awake and working some positions. On that note, I do have a hunch (not really researched) that the trading from 5am-6am tends to be more profitable or calm than the trading from 6am-7am ET. It could be that as the London moves to overlap with NY, it becomes more crazy/unpredictable.

In any case, I currently do not have a choice on which time I trade. It can only be from 4:30am to 7am Eastern. I’ve been trying to convince my wife that 3:15 is a great time to rise-and-shine, but so far I just get “the look” LOL. But nonetheless, I feel strongly that a SOLID trading plan should work in any market, any timeframe and in any trading window. Likewise, the method or indicators used should work equally universally well.

I see.

I gave Pipsiphons method a try a couple times, which I posted about in his thread. Like you, I would get stuck in scaled trades and tried to find a way to avoid that. At the time I was fading the moves or entering right on strong S/R where I thought it would reverse, which would often get me into those scales. So instead of fading, I started going with the move after it hit s/r. I’d wait until price made a small bounce off the s/r and then enter in that direction. This cut down my scaled trades by almost 50%. It meant less trades taken but it also meant a lot less time stuck in scales and less risk.

Maybe you’ve already tried that, but if not, maybe give it a shot.

Soma,

Just interested…are you still trading this method? If not, why? If so how have your results been thus far?

Thanks.

Hey Crash,

Don’t want to clog Dusk’s journal so I’ll post my reply to your question in Pipsiphon’s thread.

I’ve been re-reading PIP-SIPHON’s thread, hunting for gems I might’ve missed. I’m still studying it but have already begun to implement/focus on some new ideas. I don’t want to post my charts yet because they are still sloppy & experimental. I’m playing around with ideas and hope to nail down some refined rules soon.

In the meantime, here are some gems of wisdom I’ve fleshed out. There are more that I’ve written down, but I see these in particular as KEYS to better ideas:

[ul][li]PS scales OUT of trades, taking portional units off the table as trade develops
[/li][li]“If the price doesnt do what I want within 30 seconds. Im out.”
[/li][li]“there has of course been times when I put on a heavy trade at strong support, and it breaksdown, instead of bouncing. I just take the loss instead of trying to average it down some more”
[/li][li]“My rule is, if the trade is bigger…take the loss if youre wrong. If its smaller, scale in around s/r lines. If it keeps dropping, exit when youve reached 2% of your account.”
[/li][li]Units per trade: “It changes with every trade. Depending on the setup. If Im confident I go larger, if not, I go smaller. This leaves me enough room to play with any amounts in between and up to my “large trade” amount.”
[/li][li]“If the price is DRIFTING lower, and Im in a long, Ill probably only average in with equal position sizes at support. Or even just exit the position with a loss. But if Im long…and it makes a FAST, sharp move down towards support…I’ll usually average in with a little larger amount than the original entry, so as to make up on the pullback.”
[/li][*]“general rule of thumb, if the price has moved SHARPLY towards a nice strong confluence. A reversal is likely.”[/ul]

…Just dropped by to give you my vote of confidence. I sent you a message over at MyFxbook.com also.
I don’t think you should “soul search” too deeply. You have your own “style” that you have developed
and PipSiphon’s exact rules may not be applicable.

Personally, he says some contradictory stuff -

"If the price doesnt do what I want within 30 seconds. Im out.”
vs… averaging in and such.

I’m a very quick “clicker” and I don’t believe anyone can trade with the above rule
profitably as the markets have been for the past six months. (…and 80%+ of my trades are 3 min or less).

Not to bash PipSiphon… I devoured his thread also.

Peek back at your equity curve from Nov. 9 to Dec. 14 - you had a gain of almost 26%.
Your account size is larger now. You can only get “comfortable” if you trade it.

Go back to your basics, I think you have a superb overall trend sense.

Some days we get bad prices…or our perception of the market conditions is not quite right.
(I’ve had quite a few disasters.) Get better on “defense” during those times.
Then the next day, just get back to the basics of what you do.

I expect great things from you!

Hey Intu, no worries at all! I’m still here and kicking. (Thanks for the inspiration!) It has actually been refreshing for me to take a step back and refocus. There are a lot of things I like about the Naked November style that is evolving. These are things that are working consistently well, and that I don’t think I will mess with. For example, the method for drawing trendlines (in a video somewhere above) is crucial. This has not changed since day 1 except that I’ve refined it for simplicity. I would say the #1 core component to this method is the trendlines. I’ve dabbled with Pip-Siphons fibo-bollingers but I’m not sure I would use them. I’m not “closing the door” on them, it’s just that I don’t (personally) see the added value that he does.

By the way, this journal has helped me immensely. It’s a discipline, I don’t think I will give it up anytime soon. The discipline to spend typically an hour a day or longer re-analyzing trades without the pressure of “realtime” has given me insight. I also refer back to the chartshots to answer questions I come up with over time.

I’m currently focusing on the stop issue, which seems to be the #1 problem for many traders who try to use Pip-Siphons style. However, I believe it can be overcome and that Pip-Siphon has figured it out. This single issue seems to be the one factor that could make or break this trading style, at least from my perspective.

I’ve been playfully trading the past several days in my account. I think I might be onto something, but I’m proceeding with caution (it’s a limited cash account, so if it explodes in my face I’ll just insert another coin to play again). I’m trying very hard to apply some of the principles I mentioned above that I derived from Pip-Siphons teaching. In particular, I’ve been exploring the concept of changing the strike force with each trade, depending on the level of confidence I have. Certainly there are levels that I feel more or less confident with (for example, a multi-timeframe strong confluence level is very likely to hold firm – this occurs when multiple trendlines of different colors converge on the 30sec chart). So why shouldn’t I take advantage of that knowledge?

Additionally, in the last few days, I’ve started looking at things from a different angle with regard to the trade units. For example, it is known that the likelihood of a major upsetting move (say 50+ pips) is somewhat rare. I am making this statement based on my experience … the likelihood of me getting stuck in a runaway scaled trade that I cannot get out of, thus resulting in a major loss. That has occurred a few times. But certainly there are far more good trades than these bad apples.

So what would happen if I increase the overall strike force (trade units) across the board, yet hold firm on the stop policies? Would this not have the effect of improving the yield while not changing the risk? Furthermore, it is known that I am not handling mental stops properly. I need to be able to intuitively exit the trade when it becomes evident that the trade is a runaway. I think this will come with screentime and practice. As I’ve mentioned before, the situation is somewhat rare so I have very little practice… as compared to the hundreds of other trade patterns that I see.

My logic is that even with a large emergency stop getting hit, having the higher strike force in place would mean less days to recover back to breakeven. The emergency stop is not supposed to get hit (in fact I think I read that Pip-Siphon has never allowed it to be hit). BUT, I accept that I may fail while I am learning to be intuitive, so I’m assuming that it could happen. Here is a thread I am discussing this in now.

I’m working on a new idea that I hope to try out Monday. My playful trading is sloppy and experimental. I want to reign it in with some structure. Once I get this under control, I’ll develop rules and resume posting chartshots.

Inline with Pip-Siphons logic, I have come up with a way to classify each trade quickly into 1 of 3 buckets. The trade units would be calculated once at the beginning of the trading session and divided out per the rules of this bucket system. The objective would be to let each trade develop into a fully-maxed position, although in reality I don’t expect this will happen too much. By the way, I am looking at the “max position” figure based on the max % Oanda would allow me to use (based on account equity), or a percentage thereof.

BUCKET 1 steps: average trade AGAINST 5min trend
more steps
up to 10 steps to reach fully-maxed

BUCKET 2 steps: average trade WITH 5min trend
less steps
up to 5 steps to reach fully-maxed

BUCKET 3 steps: strong confluence trade
very few steps
2 steps max, or get out

Ok I’ve put together some new rules that I will be forward-testing live. I would like to “prove myself wrong” if this is not going to work. So far I don’t have enough data to make a determination. Plus, my execution is still sloppy and today is really the first day using structured rules.

My theory on this is that the hit rate is high enough that it will envelope any losses. The strategy for losses remains the same as before, and I’m still working on proactively identifying and accepting them quickly.

In a worst case scenario, which would be system failure or TRADER failure, I will set a hard stop at 11%. My goal is not to hit this stop loss ever. However, with the highly leveraged units I’m hoping only a handful of winners would be needed to overcome a loss on average.

So on this first day, I had a few hiccups and it will be a little foreign to me until I get some trades under my belt. There was only 4 trades and 1 I took as a loss. So the account change today was -2.3472%

The major changes I’ve made to the strategy now are:
[ul][li]I now draw both angles of trendlines for every timeframe (daily, 3hour, hourly, 15min, 5min, 30sec). Previously, I did not always draw both a rising and falling trendline. I’ve redrawn all original trendlines from November;
[/li][li]I will now start tracking both the RED and ORANGE news events. Previously I had only tracked the RED events. I want to see if these events are relative to the price action;
[/li][li]I now use a weighting system (described above) to gear the number of units per trade leg/step. The 3 weighting strategies are: WITH 5min trend, AGAINST 5min trend, and STRONG confluence. The max units per trade idea will be 90% of those available in my Oanda 50:1 account, and my objective is to fully-max a trade as it develops;
[/li][li]emergency stop will be at 11% for system or trader failure, although I do not expect this to be hit under normal circumstances; instead, I will continue to hone my skills with mental stops;[/ul]
[/li]

Tuesday 2/15/11
Quick stats:
17 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
7.6274% account change

I’m starting to feel a harmony with the new rules. It becomes easier and more natural with the constant repetition and focus on keeping solid form. There are still some execution errors but less than yesterday.

There has not yet been a runaway trend to try to bite me, so I’m unable to practice that critical execution so far.

Wednesday 2/16/11
Quick stats:
16 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
5.3309% account change

Smooth trading today. Never even got close to a stop level (is that good? on one hand it’s less stressful but on the other hand, I kindof need stop practice). Working on applying proper execution of my rules.

Thursday 2/17/11
Quick stats:
7 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
4.0776% account change
As of new rules, # emergency stops I can hit and still be net positive for the month: 1

Today was decent but I finally hit one of those runaway trades. In reviewing my charts, I don’t think I responded very well, at least not the way I would want. 2 critical errors I made were: 1) kept scaling despite racing market candle and incorrect weighting; 2) failed to trade conservative around news release time.

I welcome these runaway trade conditions – bring 'em on! I want to get comfortable cutting off a trade and taking the loss. I seem to have big issues with this.

Friday 2/18/11
Quick stats:
9 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
3.0308% account change
As of new rules, # emergency stops I can hit and still be net positive for the month: 1

Today “felt” slow and a little jerky. Spreads were only moderately higher on Oanda, I’d say averaging about 1.1. In reviewing my trade spreadsheet, it looks like I got bit by a fair amount of slippage as well. This is probably partly because of the jerky conditions, but also my internet connection is extremely slow at 768k. The internet speed is probably the very first thing I will improve on my end, and then the computer itself (I trade on a 5+ year-old dinosaur). On some level, I enjoy trying to beat the system with the cards stacked against me… I figure if I can perform consistently in terrible conditions, then surely I could shine in ideal conditions, right? Add to the list the fact that last night I only got 4 hours of sleep. Currently jacked up on coffee…

Overall, I’m very happy with trading this week. So far I like the new rules with discretionary weight buckets. I think I am onto something here. I am still highly focused on the runaway trade situations. That is the area I feel most inexperienced with and need a lot more screentime to master.

Doubling account equity for Tuesday.

EDITS:
For historical reference, I’m adding below all the charts I have for trading between 2/18 and 3/7 (to fill the gap in my journal). These charts are not fully commented.

Monday Feb 21 – no trading

Tuesday Feb 22
1 trade; -24.9990 account change

Wednesday Feb 23 – no trading

Thursday Feb 24 – no trading

Friday Feb 25 – no trading

Monday Feb 28
8 trades; 3.1939% account change

Tuesday Mar 1
14 trades; 3.1981% account change

Hey dusktrader, the increased lot size has sure increased your daily profits. I think you are headed in the right direction. Thanks for putting yourself out there. I have read your thread and have experienced the ups and downs as you have. We know that everyone will trade a little differently, so there isn’t a one size fits all system. I have some ideas I will share here. You could add horizontal S/R to you chart for some good price confluences. Try taking trades @ your best S/R confluence areas only and with 1/2 or 1/3 max. lot size. ie. 1,000 units per $100.00 and use a hard stop of say 10 pips. I always try to exit manually before stop is hit. I feel a 5 pip target fits well in this instance but it is a max. so if the trade becomes questionalble just take whats there +1 or 2 or -1 or -2 pips, no fighting the market. Having a set PT sometimes gives you a quick profit when PA jumps through your target and snaps back. Using 1/2 or 1/3 max. lot size enables you to scalp while you are in a trade. Say you are up 2 or 3 pips and it looks strong you can take another trade or if you go down 4 or 5 pips and it starts to recover you can put on a 2nd trade. The 1/3rd. max. allows for up to 3 trades on @ anyone time and if you only allow 2 trades then you could use 1/2 max. size / trade . The allowance of a 2nd. trade is important to the bottom line as you have shown. (this should solve the issue of not being able to scalp while in a trade) My idea for these trades is to enter and exit them on there own merrit, so the 2nd. trade will be closed 1st and not held for long as I am looking to grab quick pips or I’m out with 3 or 4 pip loss. This rule prevents those painful waits for the market to comeback. I often will get in and out of a 2nd trade 2 or 3 times and typically take from 1.5 to 5 pips/ trade while holding the 1st. trade. If the 1st. won’t correct I just close it and if it is -7 or -8 pips, I may still have a net profit overall for those positions. I find myself taking better entries and not getting the loosey - goosey additude that averaging against a move can cause. Sometimes I acutally reverse position and go with the flow instead of adding to a loser by averaging. I don’t use Oanda anymore as I found a broker with a .9 pip fixed spread on the EU. and even news doesn’t effect this spread. I haven’t tried them live yet as I have just recently come to these conclusions. They Don’t hold positions against their clients trades, as they roulte the orders to over 25 major banks in their system, and make their profit from the spread only. The only restriction is Minimum trade size is 1 mini or 10,000 units. I will be able to increase lot size by 1,000 unit increments but the banks require the minimum as stated. They have micro accounts with 2 pip spread on EU. So my conclusion is to set a max. loss / trade of say 1% (based on 10 pips or more if you like) and max. loss / day of 3 to 4%. My daily target should be limited to 4 or 5% as well but it is a tough one for me to stick to as I can trade around the clock swiching to momentum scalping during the Europeon session. Not averaging will make it a little harder to be profitable on a daily bases, but will prevent the wild equity swings of a 10% losing day. I have added a free trading tool to my MT4 platform that allows for 1 click trading and closing trades in any order. With Oanda, once you enter a 2nd. trade you will need to immedately go to the trade terminal and click on the trade P/L line of the 2nd trade and exit from the pop up so your 1st. trade is not exited 1st. If you choose to go as high as 3 trades just click on the 3rd. trade P/L line and the pop up will be on top of the 2nd. in the correct order for exit. When you are ready to exit the 1st. just use your one click trade window as usual. I have used this method on Oanda when I was averaging and I found it workable but not as simple as I have now and my biggest issue was the spread, the scalpers nighmare. The stops / targets are not set in stone and I may adjust them according to time of day, ATR and volitility etc. They are a good setting for the 1000 hrs. to 0100 hrs. EST. Just remember to calculate your risk / trade based on Max. stop loss in pips. Hope this helps someone out there.

Hopefully, Dusktrader is just taking some time spend with family and catch up on sleep.
One of the mentally “healthiest” traders I know who has also shown profitability.

EDITS: continued…

Wednesday Mar 2
1 trade; -11.6822% account change

Thursday Mar 3
3 trades; 1.3843% account change

Friday Mar 4
3 trades; 0.7022% account change

Monday 3/7/11
Quick stats:
6 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
2.8114% account change
As of new rules, # emergency stops I can hit and still be net positive for the month: 0

Yep yep I’m still here. Sorry for the hiccup in posting. I actually took a week off due to some personal matters but have been trading like usual for the past week or so. I’ve fallen behind with my daily journaling so I don’t have every day ready to post yet. I hope to get the charts analyzed and put up eventually (I will just prepend them here). In situations like this where I do fall behind, I think it’s important to just pick yourself up and keep moving forward. I won’t dwell too much on the ones I missed, and if I can’t find the time to mark them up I may just skip them altogether.

I did have 1 crazy bad day where I allowed my account to go 25% in the red before cutting it off. That was the week of the personal issues and after that day I decided not to trade any more until after the issues (obviously my mind was not focused on trading). There was 1 other bad day that hit my emergency stop. I have done some analysis on these days and come up with some ideas. It’s extremely difficult to look at failure days but I want to always try to glean some bit of wisdom from them.

As far as today, Monday, it has been a decent trading day. A shortened session for me but still good. The liquidity seemed normal to me but spreads moderately higher on Oanda.

I fixed something on my charts that has been bugging me for awhile… the 15min (yellow) and 1hour (pink) trendlines were “bumping into each other” … because the yellow is so much contrast against the pink, I was having a very hard time trying to update and project the 1hour trendlines correctly from day-to-day. I’ve pretty much determined that there are (potentially) an infinite number of trends going on at any given time on every timeframe. So I simply deleted the trendlines from hourly and re-drew a different non-conflicting set. I’ve gotten in the habit of drawing both uptrend and downtrend (grid)lines for every timeframe I follow: Daily, 3hour, 1hour, 15min, 5min, 30sec. This provides me with plenty of SR levels to trade from. I also draw horizontal levels at .xx00 .xx20 .xx50 and .xx80 and these all work very well.

Hi Rob, thanks for visiting my journal. I’ll make a few comments below…

Please note I try to stay primarily focused on percentages. The reason the daily % has improved is for 2 reasons: 1) I am training myself to add a discretionary “weighting” to each trade, based on my confidence of how well an SR level will hold. You can see the weight I chose in the circled numbers on my charts. There are 3 buckets of weighting that I choose from, according to my rules: AGAINST trend, WITH trend or STRONG confluence.

  1. The second reason my daily % has increased is because my rules now allow me to take trades both with and against the 5min trend. Previously I would only trade the entire session based on a single trend bias that I would identify before the session. To try to control risk, I use the weight buckets to trade more conservatively against the trend, and more heavily with the trend.

Thanks for putting yourself out there. I have read your thread and have experienced the ups and downs as you have. We know that everyone will trade a little differently, so there isn’t a one size fits all system.

Very very true. I’d like to say more about this, for others who may be reading: you can watch someone else trade and possibly pickup ideas from their method, etc. You can even try to replicate their method and maybe you’ll even manage to match it perfectly. BUT it will not fit you like a glove. There will also be some level of discretion that is not a perfect match for you. For this reason, you should only look for IDEAS from other traders, not to try to mimic them. I believe in this philosophy wholeheartedly after having created several trading methods myself over the years. The best ones are ALWAYS the ones you create yourself, or stumble onto yourself. You become intimate with them in a way that simply cannot be described or taught to others. A trading system can start from an EXTREMELY simple concept and then you build up from there. If you build it this way, you will be intimately connected with it on every level. This is the best way to find the trading method that is right for YOU.

I have no fear in sharing my trading method with the world, down to every last detail. Because no matter what I share, it can never be experienced in exactly the same way I experience it. Sharing forces me to study and analyze at a much deeper level than I might do otherwise, so it has a lot of benefit for me as the executor. For you as the reader, it can give you ideas or start some wheels turning in your head. So it really is a win-win situation. But don’t fall trap to the monkey-see-monkey-do mentality.

(ok sorry for the rant… lol… and not meant to be directed to Rob, just wanted to put my thoughts out there)

I have some ideas I will share here. You could add horizontal S/R to you chart for some good price confluences.

Right now I do use these horizontal SR levels that work GREAT: .xx00, .xx20, .xx50, .xx80 (the 20 and 80 levels have recently been added as part of my official rules).

Try taking trades @ your best S/R confluence areas only and with 1/2 or 1/3 max. lot size. ie. 1,000 units per $100.00 and use a hard stop of say 10 pips.

Yes, I see what you are saying. It is a constant battle for me to sit on my thumbs and not keep trading. Rather than focus on when not to trade, I’d rather focus on training myself to know when a trade idea has gone bad. It’s very easy to jump into trades left and right at every single SR level. I don’t see a problem with this, especially when using the weight-bucket system. But the problem comes when I’m unable to identify a runaway trade. Jumping in at every opportunity means failure is certain at some point (right?) – so I just need to keep practicing how to identify when that storm cloud blows my way.

I always try to exit manually before stop is hit. I feel a 5 pip target fits well in this instance but it is a max. so if the trade becomes questionalble just take whats there +1 or 2 or -1 or -2 pips, no fighting the market.

I wish it was this easy. Maybe it should be this easy? But for me, since I allow scaling, I cannot seem to make a hard pip level stop work. I do follow percentages, such as equity loss during a trade. But if I’ve scaled in good form, then usually only the most extreme circumstances result in a loss. Those are the conditions I would like to be able to identify before they get too far out of control.

Having a set PT sometimes gives you a quick profit when PA jumps through your target and snaps back. Using 1/2 or 1/3 max. lot size enables you to scalp while you are in a trade. Say you are up 2 or 3 pips and it looks strong you can take another trade or if you go down 4 or 5 pips and it starts to recover you can put on a 2nd trade.

I think I understand what you are saying with taking scalps while a bigger trade is playing out. But, I’ve been unable to make this work due to the FIFO rule we have in the US. I rely heavily on the overall position and the average position line. If I try to take scalps while waiting for the original trade to complete, it screws everything up and is basically impossible due to FIFO. The only option I ever considered was scalping in a sub-account, but I’ve decided not to do that based on recommendations from other traders.

I find myself taking better entries and not getting the loosey - goosey additude that averaging against a move can cause. Sometimes I acutally reverse position and go with the flow instead of adding to a loser by averaging.

So far I haven’t found a way to make this style work without scaling. Rather than keep trying, I now just try to put constraints on the scaling. I don’t believe scaling is inherently bad and I don’t have any psychological issues with it. At the same time, I realize it needs to be constrained.

Thanks man!

Hey dusktrader,

Your journal and switch to different entry sizes depending on the circumstances gave me the impetus to try the same myself. In the past I used to do something very similar but on much higher time frames. Now I’m seeing if I’ve gotten any better and am trying on the shorter time frames.

Funny how you were short during the 6:00-7:00 EST timeframe, while I was long and we both came out positive.

Keep it up!

Yep, I believe that there are a million-and-one ways to make money in the market at any given time. There is no one right or wrong way. We can be trading at the same time – even on the same timeframe – going short and long and both be profitable. Whether or not one trader is more right than another is subjective and irrelevant. I believe the market is an organic entity that has enough pips for everyone to get some. So if we can all be right in our methods at the same time… then the only thing left to master is consistency. All that matters is performing consistently, following your rules in good form.

I think the weightings have been really helpful. Finally it is a way to really “strike with force” when the opportunity is ripe. At same time, you can just barely get your toes wet if you’re less confident. I like it a lot.

Tuesday 3/8/11
Quick stats:
12 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
3.2137% account change
As of new rules, # emergency stops I can hit and still be net positive for the month: 0

Overall a pretty good trading day. Lots of opportunities.

Wednesday 3/9/11
Quick stats:
5 trades
Trend bias taken from the 5min PSAR (0.03, 0.3)
AGAINST trend weight: 1/10 acct max per leg
WITH trend weight: 2/10 acct max per leg
STRONG confluence weight: 5/10 acct max per leg
-9.7476% account change
As of new rules, # emergency stops I can hit and still be net positive for the month: 0

You might have noticed that I didn’t post my chartshot for Wednesday straight away on that morning – it’s because when I hit a runaway trade, I go through a degree of emotional pain. I have already been through a lot by that point, and I am not in the best frame of mind to post-analyze. At the same time, there is a discipline exercise that I force myself to do on these trades. I want to LEARN from them and one day beat them. So I force myself. I did that today, Thursday, instead of trading. Not-trading is a bit of a punishment, but if I never address the core issue, then it is like I’m shoving it under the rug and “hoping” it won’t happen again. I’d rather face it full-on and learn something from it.

I now study runaway trades with a lot more intensity than I once did. I create a whole folder in my file for each one and I go over them repeatedly trying to find clues. This exercise has never been without merit. I’m not quick to make major changes, but in some cases like this one, I think a slight enhancement to my trading Rules is in order.

These are the questions I force myself to answer. I’m also including the answers I recorded for each question.

What went wrong with this trade?
Euro stopped consolidation and started a strong upward move that I continued scaling into

What clues existed?
The move started about 7 minutes after an orange-colored news event occurred. I failed to recognize this and kept scaling against the trend like normal times.

What specific steps should I take in the future to try to prevent this from happening again?
The following change in trading rules:
[ul][li]No new trades will be entered for 10 minutes after a news release, to try to determine whether or not there will be any meaningful impact
[/li][li]If in a trade already, no new legs will be taken and loss should be taken as soon as it can be ascertained that a new trend has taken place (ie ranging SR levels breached)
[/li][li]For 20 minutes after news release, restrict trading only to the 5min trend direction[/ul]
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