ICT threads??? Help me out? 
There is also usefull input from others in those threads. People spent time on it, expressed their opinion. I think they hold a valuable lesson. Actually in the last weeks posters have returned to the old threads as well to dig up some hindsight views.
Also, he removed evidence from myfxbook and twitter by deleting his accounts there. So if we delete the threads and he pops up again, he would have a greenfield to build on. I think it is good that someone digs up some dirt when he types InnerCircleTrader or MHuddleston in the future.
You know this whole episode was just an elaborate way for him to pick ONE devoted student from BP and personally mentor.
Looks like you fell at the final hurdle.
To best serve my selfish interest in yelling, âI told you so,â from the highest hill in Babypips.
I accept your apology.
You never took it too personal, and as a result I didnât have to ignore you in the process. So youâre not all that bad. 
Thatâs why I think Babypips should not allow people to steer others away from Babypips. Between YouTube, Twitter, Livestream, and myfxbook, most of the time people are elsewhere.
They should focus on creating better tools for those to teach and for those to learn, and for everyone in between.
Sorry but I love fxbook, if only it was a prerequisite this whole fiasco wouldnât have come about in the first place, although I get what youâre saying, BP needs to make their app more popular / higher profile. I didnât even know it existed till last week!
Babypips has Meetpips. That is an internal way to monitor trades.
I donât think accountability should be a prerequisite however, unless you are selling something.
That said, Babypips should have a commercialized section. That way the gurus can just go there and it would avoid a lot of the subterfuge to begin with.
I do believe if you are going to put yourself out there and teach then myfxbook should be a prerequisite. That will help cut back on a lot of people believing âthe toolsâ work just because its all over the internet.
Okay, so the people who were most vocal against ICT, definitely want the threads to stick around. I guess babypips will forever be known as âICTâs former hangoutâ
I better not see anyone complaining anymore! You clearly want his brand to linger⌠and linger it will
No more âCan we stop talking about ICT??â comments, please
^^^ Best idea.
Letâs all learn the phrase âFxbook or it didnât happenâ
Itâll go like thisâŚ
Guru: Iâm ________ and Iâve been trading ____ years, and I want to share my wonderful trading strategy with you!
babypips in unison: Fxbook or it didnât happen
Guru: Goodbye then!
The new you didnât last long then did it?
The point we were trying to make is that what IS the point in removing all mention of ICT on the site. You lot invaded that many threads pushing his garbage by constantly and ignorantly spewing your garbage that if all mention was deleted the only thing that would be left is Big Bird and Elmoâs trade the euro dollar song thread.
Theyâd be as well just scrapping the site and starting again.
It really seriously concerns me that I see things so differently from most other folks here. Iâm not saying that to write a cool post or to start a fight. Literally Iâm wondering if I have bad judgement. It is certainly possible that my judgement is off. But I feel like ICT the person gave way more then he took here. Yes he got snippy, and even I felt offended at the post I read yesterday where he put everyone down. I thought it was likely due to the effect of the stress he feels at his reputation being trashed. I watched the video he made two days ago and just his tone of voice got me thinking 'man, this is pretty depressing for trading analysis. This is a community that we all spend time in.
If ICT had never come to BP, would BP have been a better place? Were the overall actions ICT took just in making the videos an amazingly generous and helpful thing to do? I feel like the scale is out of balance and some are just piling on. Some were questioning his overall validity and were doing a search of where he lived. I started to do the same thing hoping Iâd find something indicating that he was telling the truth, then it occurred to me, âwhat am I doing?â Iâm not respecting someone elses right to privacy.
Every person here has had some bad moments. Iâve had more than my share. I wish ICT would have said a little more to all of us who felt touched by his generosity, but even in sharing existing ideas that helped me understand markets a little better, the only words I have for him are âthank you.â Many have pointed out that there is more to it like untrue statements, his attitude, etc, to which I say thatâs fair. I donât mean to get all corny, but canât we agree that he gave more than heâs taken. In total honesty I been asking myself if I have a judgement issue about this. Usually when the masses see things one way, I figure they are right. Proofreading this with tired eyes on the way to work, I wish this post was more like Bobmanics yesterday.
ICT, Iâm better off for having encountered you. Thanks and well wishes. MG, if I was rude I am sorry. I like what youâre adding to BP and in that light I respect you. Speaking as one person in this community I wish youâd stop the ICT stuff. What about that next person you mention frequently who does have something to share and says âforget that, look at all the junk you take if people donât like your approach or methods.â
I never said âall mentionâ, just the threads with ICT in the title, basically.
ICT saga did end badly BUTâŚthere is always light in a tunnel.
To those genuine contributor folks around here in BP Community who sticks around and didnât stop to voice their opinions and have tried to help out newbies and or straggling traders to look the other way not just for âone personâ, I say âTHANK YOUââŚ
What it comes down to now as we see there are really great people around here who are really willing to help out and show that they âcareâ âŚ.thatâs why this trading community sites is I think one of the best out there and I am soooo proud to be part of it because of this folksâŚ
Besides, community is built with people with same goals in mind⌠even if we are here only in internet with internet personaâŚ
Maybe just change the âTitleâ?
Hey, gotta do something while I was waiting for a kiwi buy entry.
It was better than the one about the Sainsburyâs extra value spaghetti bolognese anyway.
Why? What ICT taught wasnât bad. You should be able to find it out yourself. This helps you in your learning curve and makes you more independent as a trader. Best strategies can also derive from great ideas that havenât been tested yet. And I am sure there are ways to fake an myfxbook (one, not trading something of your own but that has been proven profitable).
I think thoughts should be read, and when it makes sense you can spent some more time on it and dig deeper.
- I could be trading for 300 years and still promote a strategy that has only be profitable for two months and this was the last day that it was profitable.
- I could present you with a strategy that is new, but you just want to use it after three years of proof. By that thime the edge may already be gone.
No, this here is about learning stuff. Not about seeing traders in live action. You can learn from that ofcourse, but first priority is to understand the basics, get ideas and test them and take your first steps in live trading.
Actually what I honestly think: (no offense Akeamai, I understand why you take that point)
People that demand proof as an myfxbook are likely to have insufficient skill to determine if someone makes sense with regards to trading and are not yet ready to trade live or be profitable. They are lazy as they look for an easy solution and are not willing to invest time in testing, where the guru actually spent more time in the preparation of the material. They are in my perception the so-called âticksâ that shouldnât be in a trading forum anyway, or at least temper their opinion as they are not yet ready to judge the quality of what other traders say. For me they fall in the same category as copy-traders, who I also donât take serious as traders.
If I would be a genuine mentor, I would be happy when you pass me by when I donât show an myfxbook. I would think that you should go your own way struggling in trading. I would be happy to wait for a person that values what I say, rather than being only result driven. Mentoring is not the same as providing an out-of-the-box solution, but it is about helping someone else to develop its own solution and challenge/support/motivate him along the way and to stand by his side when the things are looking grimm.
My vote is that they stay as a reminder to all of the âherdâ mentality of those
involved. Well anyway until the next âguruâ turns up when all the âsheepâ will
then jump on their bandwagon & off we go again.
Somebody mentioned the air clearing & the smell disappearing, it never does
disappear & it should not be swept under the carpet, it should be held up as
an example to all.
Okay on to the next guru :lmao:
I never went after his teachings. I do believe he complicated things for a lot of traders. That is evident by the thousands of posts of them trying to make sense of everything.
There are others here that have their own threads, such as 3 Ducks etc. I donât take issue with them.
I took issue with ICT as a person. I could tell immediately that he wasnât who he said he was. For me it was evident from the beginning.
I took issue with the false hope he was giving people. And the fostering of their cultish environment.
He was in it for him and those that believed every word he said. If you didnât believe you were cast aside and ridiculed by the rest.
I took issue that he wasnât able to create a methodology that could garnish success. Everyone that has ever said they came out ahead admitted it was just a part of what he taught, and at that, wasnât even unique to ICT.
There were others gurus that came and left that I never bothered. Tymen comes to mind. He was a crazy old Aussie coot, but he meant well and had a genuine interest in teaching others. At least that was my take on it. He never attempted to sell or profit. He did make attempts to foster appreciation, which I thought was corny, but not harmful.
Now to your point, yes, your radar is off. But that doesnât make you naive. I genuinely believe you to be a good man who seeks the best in others, sometimes to a fault. But you have been respectful of peopleâs differing opinions.
That is something that is not true of the ICT cult. I came into that asking critical questions to understand certain points. Especially in regards to his challenge. Nobody was willing to accept the odds of its success. Rather I was shunned and ridiculed. They all had faith and belief, and that has no place in this area. Results are the only thing that counts.
The only reason I started my own thread was to show these gurus and even to Babypips how it can be done. Give people a duplicative concept, answer their questions, and allow them to take ownership of it.
ICT was so complex that it required people to stay attached so that maybe one day they could hear something that would help them to turn the lights switch on. He created co-dependency and that is dangerous.
Read what people are saying. They literally had their emotions wrapped into his world. They are hurt. Some I imagine feel lost and angry. To me thatâs a scary concept.
I just had a conversation with an admin here last night and while i agreed to lay off personal attacks I wonât stop busting these self proclaimed gurus out. Itâs to the detriment of the community.
Just early this week. A new one surfaced. Posting everywhere to follow him on Facebook and Twitter. However he was telling people to not sell the Yen, yet posting signals that was selling the Yen. He had no idea that his trades were in fact selling the Yen. Now had I not piped up, people could have started following him and getting led astray in his world of inaccuracy.
I think had I known ICT had sock puppets from the beginning, I would have been barking at his heels until he moved on to the next forum.
Babypips is no place for the bs. And quite honestly, half of my 2k posts have been spent driving these fools out. TRO and now ICT.
I agree, this demand for proof business is getting ridiculous.