Political Opinion

Cyco, and why you can’t just pick a verse without knowing what’s going on and who is saying it.

Yes, you are “off”. Please don’t paraphrase scripture or make up your own.

I wasn’t trying to make up scripture. This is how I’ve come to know him.

"And god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, to whosoever believes in him, shall not parish, but have ever lasting life."
Not a direct quote, I don’t remember it to the word. That falls under believe in me or die.

In that case, well said.

I wasn’t trying to make up scripture. This is how I’ve come to know him.

"And god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, to whosoever believes in him, shall not parish, but have ever lasting life."
Not a direct quote, I don’t remember it to the word. That falls under believe in me or die.

Hmmm, are you a Christian then? If you are, I’m sure you’d appreciate that God’s appeal to humanity is not “Believe me or die, Worship me or die, Love me or die”. Why is your emphasis on death instead of the very obvious reference to eternal life? What is so difficult about choosing to believe in God (and consequently obtaining eternal life)? Why do atheists etc make it seem like being Christian is this horrific choice that once you do, you are doomed to be an idiot forever? Even if I am wrong about God and Jesus, I’ll still be significantly better off than any atheists / evolutionists, should they be wrong. NOTE: Do not interpret this sentence to mean that I am only a Christian to be “rather safe than sorry”.

As traders here one key is risk:reward ratio lol. I think the Christians have the best.

Not sure what I am really. Raised a christian, still believe, but I believe god to be a prick. I put emphasis on death because it’s not fair. He rules with fear.

I would agree with you the concept of “eternal punishment” is hard to accept. But is it really eternal? Revelations 20:14-15 speaks of the “second death” in the “lake of fire” for non-believers which sounds very nasty. But then right after that, Revelations 21:1 says, “Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away”. So, if the lake of fire was part of the “old heaven/earth” then it passed away too, right? To me this reads like “the lake” and everything in it no longer exist. So then “punishment” is not really eternal. Maybe in the end there is just “nothingness” for non-believers, which is what atheists are expecting.

According to this hypothesis we were created in his own image. Now in contradiction to your earlier post that people were not created to be mere robots, but with free will, it is after eating the forbidden fruit we were ‘as gods, with knowledge of good and evil’.
So according to Genesis he did not create us with knowledge of all things, but we became as gods once the sin was committed. This does seem to me that we are now expected to have knowledge of all things.

Maybe. We have not had enough time since we left the Dark Ages to fully explore all aspects of the universe. Are some people better at understanding some things than others? Without a doubt – I have a pretty good grasp on Quantum Mechanics, but I suspect (and I’m unlikely to ever test it) that I could teach it to the guy who cleans the factories in the area I work.

If you are content with him starving millions to dearth every year, and having them die of preventable diseases good luck to you.

Yes.
It, along with other verses, says that a man can take a woman without her consent and make her his wife. As she has no say in the matter that is rape.

Jesus repeatedly states in the new testament that prayers will be answered.
So pray for something impossible – say a 10 metre tall pink elephant to appear in New York – something that MUST be by god, can appear no other way, and you will be proved correct when it appears, and I – and many others – will appear very foolish. Until you can prove that your god exists you have a hypothesis, and I have a theory about why we are here. Mine can always be disproved. You will always move the goal posts, avoid the hard questions, and say you believe against all that can possibly show you to be incorrect.

I don’t have to. They do it for themselves.


Hahaha, very funny indeed. I like that - all us Christians have the lowest IQs. Even if your crude diagram (without any substantiation) is true, I really couldn’t care if my IQ is 110 or 60, I’d still love and follow God because it doesn’t take superior intellect to experience something of God. I’m intrigued by your constant need to belittle Christians.

Why are you even continuing to attempt to prove a point to me if I’m so feeble-minded? Anyway, since I’m actually enjoying this now, let me continue riling you up…

According to this hypothesis we were created in his own image. Now in contradiction to your earlier post that people were not created to be mere robots, but with free will, it is after eating the forbidden fruit we were ‘as gods, with knowledge of good and evil’.

I apologise for my simple-mindedness, but I struggle to understand what you are saying in these two sentences. We were created in the image of God. Correct. How is this contradictory to being non-robotic in our thinking… Hmmm, not sure. Perhaps you can clarify.

Again you misquote scripture. If I am not mistaken, not once does God say that this fruit would provide man with godlike qualities or knowledge of all things. The serpent did, however…
GEN 3:4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Oh but let me guess, the serpent (the crafty, eternal liar) was being honest?

So according to Genesis he did not create us with knowledge of all things, but we became as gods once the sin was committed. This does seem to me that we are now expected to have knowledge of all things.

So much for that conclusion…

Maybe. We have not had enough time since we left the Dark Ages to fully explore all aspects of the universe. Are some people better at understanding some things than others? Without a doubt – I have a pretty good grasp on Quantum Mechanics, but I suspect (and I’m unlikely to ever test it) that I could teach it to the guy who cleans the factories in the area I work.

I’m not sure how this is disproving the theory that humans aren’t all knowing… If anything, you have provided further corroborative evidence that we aren’t. The intention behind my saying that we aren’t all knowing is that it is not possible to make sense of something that you don’t understand. Take magicians for example - humans are astounded by their tricks and often believe these same are using powerful “magics” to accomplish them. Why? Because they have never seen how it is done. Once you have, the fallacy is almost pathetic.

If you are content with him starving millions to dearth every year, and having them die of preventable diseases good luck to you.

I certainly am not content with people dying, but I think it’s becoming strikingly clear that your understanding of God is not as great as you think it is. Even I with my ridiculously low IQ can understand that God’s job isn’t to make everything perfect for everyone all the time every second of every day. If it was, again we’d have no need for him or for Heaven and Hell. Funnily enough, Eden was the perfect world, but guess what, we blew it!

Tell me, how many Christians, when dying of a “preventable disease” as you put it, cry that God didn’t bother inventing a cure? How many Christians are starving to death each day? I’m not saying that being a Christian is a life of bliss and no problems, but God certainly meets all our basic needs.

Yes.
It, along with other verses, says that a man can take a woman without her consent and make her his wife. As she has no say in the matter that is rape.

Ridiculous logic. Funny how I’m the one moving the goal-posts the whole time, but you neglect to paint me a picture of what Biblical marriage entails BEFORE addressing the “multitude” of verses in which God upholds the virtues of rape. Quaint!

Jesus repeatedly states in the new testament that prayers will be answered.
So pray for something impossible – say a 10 metre tall pink elephant to appear in New York – something that MUST be by god, can appear no other way, and you will be proved correct when it appears, and I – and many others – will appear very foolish. Until you can prove that your god exists you have a hypothesis, and I have a theory about why we are here. Mine can always be disproved.

God has done more than enough things to show the entire world that only He could’ve done such an act - For example, CREATING THE UNIVERSE AND YOU IN IT. But no, that ain’t enough, he’s gotta randomly place pink elephants in New York city to convince the atheists. Intriguing. You and I both know that it would not make the slightest difference at all whether he answered that prayer or not. People would worship the elephant as God, believe it’s some magic trick, a demon from hell, who knows what other reasons they’ll come up with. Perhaps the next Charles Darwin will come along and say that the elephant is the next evolution of man?

You will always move the goal posts, avoid the hard questions, and say you believe against all that can possibly show you to be incorrect.

Really, I must commend you on this. You continue to avoid my questions, insult Christianity, misquote and ridicule the Bible, make ridiculous contentions that Christians are feeble-minded and yet find the time to tell me that I keep moving the goal posts. I keep responding to each of your points in turn, how am I moving the goal-posts?

As I already said to wigglez - I am content with my beliefs and with the ultimate results should I one day be wrong. Until then, I’ll stay clear of “Monkey Island” thanks.

  1. Darwin renounced his own theory on his deathbed
  2. He conceded that if the single cell was anymore complex than his “protoplasm” model, his theory would fall apart. There are no molecular biologists who agree with Darwin or evolution at all. This branch of science is so facinating…amazing. A single human cell is more productive, more complex, and more efficient than a automobile manufacturing plant. An obvious signature of Divine intelligent design.
  3. The alternative title of Darwin’s book which you have to look hard to find is: “The preservation of FAVORED RACES in the struggle for life”. He had an absolute agenda that far surpassed trying to rid God from the minds of societies, but created roots for Eugenics, and societal/political revolution, namely communism and socialism, or in other words, the destruction of the freedom of the individual. These influences were played out with the rise of A. Hitler who thought he could fulfill this disgusting idea, that his race was the only one that should exist on the planet, because he believed in the so called “survival of the fittest”. Gross! And we know what became of it. We barely beat him hem…barely.
    And yet there are still people born many years later, who somehow get this ridiculous thirst for power, and to control everyone else, and threaten our freedom.
    Some of you may be aware of recent news of a certain Georgetown University professor who has came out boldly saying America’s constitution should be shredded, just because of it’s age. He refuses to go into specifics, and won’t be specific about what should replace it, either. Well, lets just help him out, shall we? He wants absolute concentrated power in gov’t so that they can “legally steal” from those how actually make a difference here (producers).
    Communists like to call these “those who control the means of production”. Idiots! Every individual in America can be their own controller of production, individually. They can choose from many different possibilities to make their personal wealth. They can work for someone else, or they can be business starters themselves. And this isn’t limited to America. Anyone who can open a FOREX account has this potential.
    I can’t stand thieves and robbers. I just can’t stand lazy people who refuse to do for themselves, but instead demand other people’s fruit of their own labor.
    I, by the way, want to use my personal wealth to give to people who really need it, those who can’t possibly provide for themselves. I think the gov’t should get out of this and let individuals take care of widows and orphans, and truely disabled people.
    Being an alcholic is not a disability. Pinching your finger in a door does not make you unable to be a productive, profitable individual. Being lazy and unwilling to work is not a license to steal other’s money.

How’s that for a rant?

That’s kind of open ended. It doesn’t prove anything. You could say he answered with a no. So then yes all prayers are answered, be it yes or no :wink:

For some reason, I’m always amazed at how fast discussions on beliefs go south.

Is it because they are so personal? It seems there is nothing that can induce negative reactions more quickly than challenging someone’s beliefs no matter how mundane the conversation started.

Politics and religion are inexorably linked in that fashion.

Not sure. Might be how it all transpires. I called god a prick and nobody has jumped down my throat, at least yet.

I agree that it can often bring about a few negative reactions, and if I have come across as such in any of my comments then I apologise - that was certainly not the intention. I am passionate about what I believe in, and when someone mocks and ridicules it, I struggle to hold myself back, particularly when the person who dishes it out makes the error of using inaccurate references to scriptures and demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of virtually everything Christian-related. I do not profess to be an expert on evolution, and thus I have not been throwing around half-assed critiques about it.

How about how much of us American’s hard earned money (I mean our grandchildren’s) goes to the _____?
While the spenders rage about how we need to pay ANOTHER $1 trillion in taxes. They are thieves and robbers.

1.The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.[1]
2.Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.[2]
3.Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.[3]
4.Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them – costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually – fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.[4]
5.The Congressional Budget Office published a “Budget Options” series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.[5]
6.Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.[6]
7.Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]
8.A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, including “over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold.” The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.[8]
9.Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.[9]
10.The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.[10]
11.The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida.[11]
12.Over half of all farm subsidies go to commercial farms, which report average household incomes of $200,000.[12]
13.Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.[13]
14.A GAO audit found that 95 Pentagon weapons systems suffered from a combined $295 billion in cost overruns.[14]
15.The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.[15]
16.Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute.[16]
17.Federal investigators have launched more than 20 criminal fraud investigations related to the TARP financial bailout.[17]
18.Despite trillion-dollar deficits, last year’s 10,160 earmarks included $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, California; $190,000 for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming; and $75,000 for the Totally Teen Zone in Albany, Georgia.[18]
19.The federal government owns more than 50,000 vacant homes.[19]
20.The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.[20]
21.Members of Congress have spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars supplying their offices with popcorn machines, plasma televisions, DVD equipment, ionic air fresheners, camcorders, and signature machines – plus $24,730 leasing a Lexus, $1,434 on a digital camera, and $84,000 on personalized calendars.[21]
22.More than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for.[22]
23.Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, “Girls Gone Wild” videos, and at least one sex change operation.[23]
24.Auditors discovered that 900,000 of the 2.5 million recipients of emergency Katrina assistance provided false names, addresses, or Social Security numbers or submitted multiple applications.[24]
25.Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737.[25]
26.The Transportation Department will subsidize up to $2,000 per flight for direct flights between Washington, D.C., and the small hometown of Congressman Hal Rogers (R-KY) – but only on Monday mornings and Friday evenings, when lawmakers, staff, and lobbyists usually fly. Rogers is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which writes the Transportation Department’s budget.[26]
27.Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches – even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.[27]
28.A Department of Agriculture report concedes that much of the $2.5 billion in “stimulus” funding for broadband Internet will be wasted.[28]
29.The Defense Department wasted $100 million on unused flight tickets and never bothered to collect refunds even though the tickets were refundable.[29]
30.Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.[30]
31.Over one recent 18-month period, Air Force and Navy personnel used government-funded credit cards to charge at least $102,400 on admission to entertainment events, $48,250 on gambling, $69,300 on cruises, and $73,950 on exotic dance clubs and prostitutes.[31]
32.Members of Congress are set to pay themselves $90 million to increase their franked mailings for the 2010 election year.[32]
33.Congress has ignored efficiency recommendations from the Department of Health and Human Services that would save $9 billion annually.[33]
34.Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.[34]
35.The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds.[35]
36.Suburban families are receiving large farm subsidies for the grass in their backyards – subsidies that many of these families never requested and do not want. [36]
37.Congress appropriated $20 million for “commemoration of success” celebrations related to Iraq and Afghanistan.[37]
38.Homeland Security employee purchases include 63-inch plasma TVs, iPods, and $230 for a beer brewing kit.[38]
39.Two drafting errors in the 2005 Deficit Reduction Act resulted in a $2 billion taxpayer cost.[39]
40.North Ridgeville, Ohio, received $800,000 in “stimulus” funds for a project that its mayor described as “a long way from the top priority.”[40]
41.The National Institutes of Health spends $1.3 million per month to rent a lab that it cannot use.[41]
42.Congress recently spent $2.4 billion on 10 new jets that the Pentagon insists it does not need and will not use.[42]
43.Lawmakers diverted $13 million from Hurricane Katrina relief spending to build a museum celebrating the Army Corps of Engineers – the agency partially responsible for the failed levees that flooded New Orleans.[43]
44.Medicare officials recently mailed $50 million in erroneous refunds to 230,000 Medicare recipients.[44]
45.Audits showed $34 billion worth of Department of Homeland Security contracts contained significant waste, fraud, and abuse.[45]
46.Washington recently spent $1.8 million to help build a private golf course in Atlanta, Georgia.[46]
47.The Advanced Technology Program spends $150 million annually subsidizing private businesses; 40 percent of this funding goes to Fortune 500 companies.[47]
48.Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.[48]
49.The Conservation Reserve program pays farmers $2 billion annually not to farm their land.[49]
50.The Commerce Department has lost 1,137 computers since 2001, many containing Americans’ personal data.[50]

This is a very small fraction, just scratching the surface.

How about how much of us American’s hard earned money (I mean our grandchildren’s) goes to the _____?
While the spenders rage about how we need to pay ANOTHER $1 trillion in taxes. They are thieves and robbers.

1.The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.[1]

2.Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.[2]

3.Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.[3]

4.Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them – costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually – fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.[4]

5.The Congressional Budget Office published a “Budget Options” series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.[5]

6.Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.[6]

7.Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]

8.A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, including “over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold.” The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.[8]

9.Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.[9]

10.The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.[10]

11.The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida.[11]

12.Over half of all farm subsidies go to commercial farms, which report average household incomes of $200,000.[12]

13.Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.[13]

14.A GAO audit found that 95 Pentagon weapons systems suffered from a combined $295 billion in cost overruns.[14]

15.The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.[15]

16.Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute.[16]

17.Federal investigators have launched more than 20 criminal fraud investigations related to the TARP financial bailout.[17]

18.Despite trillion-dollar deficits, last year’s 10,160 earmarks included $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, California; $190,000 for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming; and $75,000 for the Totally Teen Zone in Albany, Georgia.[18]

19.The federal government owns more than 50,000 vacant homes.[19]

20.The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.[20]

21.Members of Congress have spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars supplying their offices with popcorn machines, plasma televisions, DVD equipment, ionic air fresheners, camcorders, and signature machines – plus $24,730 leasing a Lexus, $1,434 on a digital camera, and $84,000 on personalized calendars.[21]

22.More than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for.[22]

23.Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, “Girls Gone Wild” videos, and at least one sex change operation.[23]

24.Auditors discovered that 900,000 of the 2.5 million recipients of emergency Katrina assistance provided false names, addresses, or Social Security numbers or submitted multiple applications.[24]

25.Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737.[25]

26.The Transportation Department will subsidize up to $2,000 per flight for direct flights between Washington, D.C., and the small hometown of Congressman Hal Rogers (R-KY) – but only on Monday mornings and Friday evenings, when lawmakers, staff, and lobbyists usually fly. Rogers is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which writes the Transportation Department’s budget.[26]

27.Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches – even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.[27]

28.A Department of Agriculture report concedes that much of the $2.5 billion in “stimulus” funding for broadband Internet will be wasted.[28]

29.The Defense Department wasted $100 million on unused flight tickets and never bothered to collect refunds even though the tickets were refundable.[29]

30.Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.[30]

31.Over one recent 18-month period, Air Force and Navy personnel used government-funded credit cards to charge at least $102,400 on admission to entertainment events, $48,250 on gambling, $69,300 on cruises, and $73,950 on exotic dance clubs and prostitutes.[31]

32.Members of Congress are set to pay themselves $90 million to increase their franked mailings for the 2010 election year.[32]

33.Congress has ignored efficiency recommendations from the Department of Health and Human Services that would save $9 billion annually.[33]

34.Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.[34]

35.The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds.[35]

36.Suburban families are receiving large farm subsidies for the grass in their backyards – subsidies that many of these families never requested and do not want. [36]

37.Congress appropriated $20 million for “commemoration of success” celebrations related to Iraq and Afghanistan.[37]

38.Homeland Security employee purchases include 63-inch plasma TVs, iPods, and $230 for a beer brewing kit.[38]

39.Two drafting errors in the 2005 Deficit Reduction Act resulted in a $2 billion taxpayer cost.[39]

40.North Ridgeville, Ohio, received $800,000 in “stimulus” funds for a project that its mayor described as “a long way from the top priority.”[40]

41.The National Institutes of Health spends $1.3 million per month to rent a lab that it cannot use.[41]

42.Congress recently spent $2.4 billion on 10 new jets that the Pentagon insists it does not need and will not use.[42]

43.Lawmakers diverted $13 million from Hurricane Katrina relief spending to build a museum celebrating the Army Corps of Engineers – the agency partially responsible for the failed levees that flooded New Orleans.[43]

44.Medicare officials recently mailed $50 million in erroneous refunds to 230,000 Medicare recipients.[44]

45.Audits showed $34 billion worth of Department of Homeland Security contracts contained significant waste, fraud, and abuse.[45]

46.Washington recently spent $1.8 million to help build a private golf course in Atlanta, Georgia.[46]

47.The Advanced Technology Program spends $150 million annually subsidizing private businesses; 40 percent of this funding goes to Fortune 500 companies.[47]

48.Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.[48]

49.The Conservation Reserve program pays farmers $2 billion annually not to farm their land.[49]

50.The Commerce Department has lost 1,137 computers since 2001, many containing Americans’ personal data.[50]

This is a very small fraction, just scratching the surface.

Just wanted to make it easier on the eyes.

Source?

7.Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]

Here’s the article…

NIH Funds $2.6 Million Study to Get Prostitutes in China to Drink Less | Fox News

Someone at work was telling me about the milk cliff. And I got to reading around. The government pays .65 cents for every gallon of milk. Including milk that goes into cheese and yogurt. We spend about 4 billion a year for this. Then I read a lot of the agricultural market is subsidized. And we do this for products we are using less of.

Doing a word search using the King James online bible the counts were as follows:
Marry: 19;
Marriage: 18;
Husband: 108;
Wife: 370

The search engine also included related terms and tenses so I did not need to search for them separately.

The instructions and commentary found from these searches is as follows:

You are not allowed to marry anyone of the 7 nations greater than you
You [women] should only marry someone from your own tribe
If [you are male] your married brother dies childless his wife is now your wife
[Young widows] should marry so they don’t become tattlers or busybodies
The husband rules over the wife
Women should not complain about being ruled by men
Women are not allowed to teach men
Women are not allowed to rule over men
Men should live with their wives to give honour to them as they are weaker
So long as the children are well behaved a husband is blameless
A man may have multiple wives
Virtuous women are incredibly rare
The man is not of the woman, but the woman is of the man
Husbands should love their wives and not be bitter about them
A man who claims his wife was not a virgin, and is proved incorrect shall pay her family 100 shekels, if she cannot prove he is incorrect she will be stoned to death
A husband should bring his wife due benevolence
Do not separate from your wife, without divorcing her

How was I so silly earlier to think that a ‘spoil of war’ would have any say in her potential future husband.

This study coved countries with monotheistic and multi-theistic beliefs as well as those with very little belief. It is not implying that Christians in particular are more stupid that other religions. The study found that those with very high levels of religiousity had reduced critical thinking and analytical skills. These are both skill types I would expect that one would desire in a successful forex trader. Doesn’t mean you, and others, are in the fat part of the bell curve – but that it is there.

Did they die? No
Did they know good from evil? Yes
Looks like it was being honest, sorry to bust your bubble there…

Maybe you should talk to the many church goers of New Orleans, and areas like that, that are still working to but their city back together 7 years on from Katrina.

This is not proof. This is a guess. I respect the story, keeps the kids from being naughty, like Santa Claus.

This was a lie. Darwin’s wife (a devout christian) and children said as much when they were still alive.

You need to meet more molecular biologists. I know several who disagree with your statement.

I could not agree with you more.
The lazy will soon learn to work when they can’t afford food.

Does he tell you the no, or are you guessing at it when it doesn’t happen? :wink:

On a side note while preparing the above post I’ve found the founder of whichever country you make sheep jokes about: Jacob may have been the first [insert country of choice here] for as a wife he kept sheep :smiley:

Lol. That made me spill my coffee.