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Sure. Still, between living in a Wild West sort of society and the one where I don’t have to fear death every day but have to pay 40% of everything I make…I’ll take the latter.[/QUOTE]
Um whose living in fear… Owning a gun has the exact opposite affect of that. You are the one mentioning fighting of bands off marauders.
I much rather buy a $500 gun and live with the peace of mind that it brings then pay 40% of my annual income if that what it boils down to.
That is reality my friend. Just think of L.A. riots but add more desperation because of hunger ( no welfare). There is no police force that could regulate a rotten society that you would have made. I wont even comment your implication how Jesus wrote the Constitution…
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That is reality my friend. Just think of L.A. riots but add more desperation because of hunger ( no welfare). There is no police force that could regulate a rotten society that you would have made. I wont even comment your implication how Jesus wrote the Constitution…[/QUOTE]
No one would starve because hunger is a great motivator to get people to work.
Bad guys come always in greater numbers and with more guns. Read this article, it will tell you all about this utopia. Mormon clans in Mexico targets of drug cartels
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Bad guys come always in greater numbers and with more guns. Read this article, it will tell you all about this utopia. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/07/23/20090723mexico-mormon23-ON.html[/QUOTE]
Bad guys come in greater numbers with more guns because good guys are restricted by the unnecessary big government anti gun legislation… Bad guys don’t care about that… Law abiding citizens are always at a disadvantage when the government thinks it will make things safer by limiting our right to defend ourselves.
P.s. how’s the Mexican government doing protecting people from the “bad guys” … You have to pay their taxes AND still live in fear.
Miserable taxes compared to the ones you pay on the other side of the border. Mexico is a proper exercise of the free market I would say. Why don’t you try your luck there, like Jesse Ventura does?
[QUOTE=“konan;484064”]Miserable taxes compared to the ones you pay on the other side of the border. Mexico is a proper exercise of the free market I would say. Why don’t you try your luck there, like Jesse Ventura does?[/QUOTE]
Considering I live in a border state, and the Current administration prefers amnesty over securing the border… I practically live in Mexico.
I’m about to log off coz the wife made dinner, but Happy Cinco de Mayo if we don’t get to talk later! 
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I’m about to log off coz the wife made dinner, but Happy Cinco de Mayo if we don’t get to talk later! :P[/QUOTE]
Lol… Gracias
Man I’m so confused. Babypips should add a thing in your profile snapshot for religion and political stance.
Just another point on the topic of the origins of Big G…
Many people don’t appreciate the relationship between the socialization of America and the on-going destruction of the family. It is a shocking statistic (to me) that over 40% of children are now born in the USA without a family. And the chart below is out of date. For 2012 the number was even higher. 50 years ago such a thing was unheard of.
Remember that TV show, “Leave it to Beaver”? We might poke fun of that show, but it represented a social system that actually worked. Ward Cleaver dutifully provided for himself and his family. Ward got the satisfaction of a successful career and providing for his family. June Cleaver got the satisfaction of raising her children and being married to someone she could respect. Meanwhile, Wally and the Beaver had a role model in their life they needed for growing up. And, importantly, since Ward did such a great job providing for his family, the Government didn’t have to!
But nowadays there are so many unwed mothers in need of assistance. Of course they do the best they can to raise their children. But they can’t do it without lots of help from the Government. In effect, these women got married to Uncle Sam.
My point? To all you bachelors out there… Marriage. Be brave. Do it for yourself. Do it for your country.
[Yowza!!! Didn’t mean for the pics to be so huge]
And notice the turn happened in the 1960s. They aren’t called 60s hippies and radicals for nothing. Also, important Supreme Court rulings were made at this time, which were all anti-family, and anti-religious-freedom. Abortion, removal of 10 commandments, no prayer in schools, etc. Libs think it isn’t enough though, they apparently want no family at all, they want that chart at 100% for everyone. Giving Plan B to 15 year olds. Trying to change the dictionary definition of marriage. On and on, always consuming, never satisfied. doing what ever it takes to get control over people.
Talking at me? What confuses you exactly?
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Talking at me? What confuses you exactly?[/QUOTE]
You’re ok with taxes? No religion. But you don’t like welfare?
Taxes are needed I understand that. It’s the income tax I don’t like. And how they always go up to accompany government spending. America survived until 1913 without an income tax. Which coincidentally is the same year the federal reserve was created. Or am I wrong?
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You’re ok with taxes? No religion. But you don’t like welfare?
Taxes are needed I understand that. It’s the income tax I don’t like. And how they always go up to accompany government spending. America survived until 1913 without an income tax. Which coincidentally is the same year the federal reserve was created. Or am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
No … He is pro welfare. He also is European so it makes sense he is ok with socialism… It’s what he is used to.
I feel sad that people still think this way. It underlines that there is still a long way to go. As a proud liberal I simply feel that I have no right to define family for others. I have no right to tell a woman what she cant do with her body. On the one hand you complain about control over people, and on the other it’s you who wants the restrictions of the past to remain…
Go visit a city, and talk to people, and you really will realize that we’re all the same despite how different we are. Go talk to people about their lives, and then tell them you’d deny them the dignity to create a family, because it does not fit your definition. The pre 60’s era you crave wasn’t so great for many people who had to fight for basic civil rights.
You guys must be in your eighties…All dem “dirty hippies” and baby boomers grew old and are now mostly conservative…
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No … He is pro welfare. He also is European so it makes sense he is ok with socialism… It’s what he is used to.[/QUOTE]
Ah he called my post brilliant lol I guess that could be taken sarcastically. It’s just this is a trading forum and it seems a lot of ppl agree.
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I feel sad that people still think this way. It underlines that there is still a long way to go. As a proud liberal I simply feel that I have no right to define family for others. I have no right to tell a woman what she cant do with her body. On the one hand you complain about control over people, and on the other it’s you who wants the restrictions of the past to remain…
Go visit a city, and talk to people, and you really will realize that we’re all the same despite how different we are. Go talk to people about their lives, and then tell them you’d deny them the dignity to create a family, because it does not fit your definition. The pre 60’s era you crave wasn’t so great for many people who had to fight for basic civil rights.[/QUOTE]
I feel sad for the kids who are conceived into a world where they don’t know a dad… Have a mother who is unable to provide for her family because she made poor decisions her whole life, and as a result the kid has a poor foundation for his or her own life.
The whole argument of “you can’t tell someone how to live” only goes so far… Until the government starts taking my money to fund the really bad life decisions that others have made and are now facing the consequences for… I don’t want to pay taxes so I can provide promiscuous women birth control, I don’t want to pay taxes to provide food and shelter for the promiscuous women who did not use birth control and now have a bunch of mouths to feed.
Here, this is a tax chart relative to GDP for the last 60 years. All taxes have never been lower in this post war history and in correlation with that the condition of US economy has never been more dire. In their “golden 50’s” the top bracket tax was the highest it seems. So, if not for payroll taxes, are you are for higher corporate taxes then? I understand that your government collects too much, but someone has to pay for the 58 percent of the total defense dollars of the next 10 biggest armies in the world combined…Can’t recollect when Fed was created exactly…
