Political Opinion

Yes. And we canā€™t really blame women for this situation, since itā€™s the guy who initiates the activity. Just canā€™t get around the fact that since the 1960ā€™s too many of us men have stopped taking responsibility for our sexual behavior, leaving it to the Government to pick up the pieces. This is the root cause of two of our most vexing social problems ā€“ abortions and fatherless children. The church teaches celibacy outside of marriage for a reason.

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Yes. And we canā€™t really blame women for this situation, since itā€™s the guy who initiates the activity. Just canā€™t get around the fact that since the 1960ā€™s too many of us men have stopped taking responsibility for our sexual behavior, leaving it to the Government to pick up the pieces. This is the root cause of two of our most vexing social problems ā€“ abortions and fatherless children. The church teaches celibacy outside of marriage for a reason.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking aboutā€¦ Itā€™s waaaaay easier for a woman to go find a random person to get it on with then it is for a manā€¦

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Here, this is a tax chart relative to GDP for the last 60 years. All taxes have never been lower in this post war history and in correlation with that the condition of US economy has never been more dire. In their ā€œgolden 50ā€™sā€ the top bracket tax was the highest it seems. So, if not for payroll taxes, are you are for higher corporate taxes then? I understand that your government collects too much, but someone has to pay for the 58 percent of the total defense dollars of the next 10 biggest armies in the world combinedā€¦Canā€™t recollect when Fed was created exactlyā€¦<img src=ā€œ301 Moved Permanentlyā€/>[/QUOTE]

Yea konan Iā€™m not a big fan of America being the self proclaimed ā€œworld policeā€ and not for higher corporate taxes either. Sales tax, import/ export taxes. And they can work with what they get from that :-D.

As my last post hereā€¦Europe, itā€™s a continent comprised of sovereign countries, innit?! I live in a capitalist society! All I can tell you is good luck with trying to go all Taliban on ā€œpromiscuousā€ women of Americaā€¦If I was you I would embrace the fact that you have so many beautiful free women and maybe try to get ā€¦you knowā€¦censoredā€¦!this could probably help cure your xenophobia, homophobia and misogyny especially.

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As my last post hereā€¦Europe, itā€™s a continent comprised of sovereign countries, innit?! I live in a capitalist society! All I can tell you is good luck with trying to go all Taliban on ā€œpromiscuousā€ women of Americaā€¦If I was you I would embrace the fact that you have so many beautiful free women and maybe try to get ā€¦you knowā€¦censoredā€¦!this could probably help cure your xenophobia, homophobia and misogyny especially.[/QUOTE]

Lolā€¦ Just worry about how Europe is rapidly becoming irrelevant to the global community as its culture is rapidly getting lost in Islamic immigration and its economy is getting trashed by the socialism most europeans claim is superior to American enterprise. The euro area is a messā€¦ Unemployment is 12.1% as a wholeā€¦ And if you are happy subsidizing other peopleā€™s lifestyle choices, then you are living in the right part of the world. The only reason the euro area is remaining liquid is because of one country, Germany. Oh the ironyā€¦

If me paying a little more in taxes means that everyone can have health care coverage, I donā€™t mind paying a little more. People make mistakes, weā€™re all human, and no one should be cast off because they need health care after making some dumb lifestyle choices.

Mate, you truly have no clue what you are talking about! Try naming two socialist countries in Europe for instance! Do you know what socialism is in the first place?!

Man, I hope you just trade using the technicals coz your fundamentals SUCK son!

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Mate, you truly have no clue what you are talking about! Try naming two socialist countries in Europe for instance! Do you know what socialism is in the first place?![/QUOTE]

Greece, Portugal, France, Spain, Italyā€¦ All operate on principles of socialismā€¦ Coincidence they are the countries with the highest unemployment rates? Nopeā€¦

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Man, I hope you just trade using the technicals coz your fundamentals SUCK son![/QUOTE]

Iā€™d be more then happy to compare my trading thread with yours :wink:

The ā€œprinciples of socialismā€? What, as in no private property and businesses or people in them use social media too muchā€¦?

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The ā€œprinciples of socialismā€? What, as in no private property and businesses or people in them use social media too muchā€¦?[/QUOTE]

You know very well what I mean.

Not even you know what you mean because you are saying dumb #%$% with no factual backup.

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Not even you know what you mean because you are saying dumb #%$% with no factual backup.[/QUOTE]

Remind me what the crisis in Greece was all about againā€¦?

Goldman Sachs helped them mask the extent of the real debtā€¦Greeks are lazy tooā€¦Get to the point!

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Goldman Sachs helped them mask the extent of the real debtā€¦Greeks are lazy tooā€¦Get to the point![/QUOTE]

And how did the lazy Greeks get into so much debtā€¦?

They lived beyond their means, budget deficit got out of controlā€¦My uncle also went bankrupt at one point, but it donā€™t make him a socialist does itā€¦

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They lived beyond their means, budget deficit got out of controlā€¦My uncle also went bankrupt at one point, but it donā€™t make him a socialist does itā€¦[/QUOTE]

The government came in with some SERIOUS social programs which handed out money to many, many Greeks who did not work for itā€¦ I could give you a pretty lengthy list of social programs that fit the bill of ā€œprinciples of socialismā€ ā€¦ And now the hard working people of Europe (mainly Germany) are footing the bill for lifestyle choices of the Greeksā€¦

So we have a government supporting a large majority of its citizensā€¦ Through social benefit programsā€¦ and taking the money to support them from hard working peopleā€¦ This is the very essence of socialism

Source: BBC.co.uk

Greece was living beyond its means even before it joined the euro. After it adopted the single currency, public spending soared.

Public sector wages, for example, rose 50% between 1999 and 2007 - far faster than in most other eurozone countries. The government also ran up big debts paying for the 2004 Athens Olympics.

And while money flowed out of the governmentā€™s coffers, its income was hit by widespread tax evasion. So, after years of overspending, its budget deficit - the difference between spending and income - spiralled out of control.

Moreover, much of the borrowing was concealed, as successive Greek governments sought to meet the 3%-of-GDP cap on borrowing that is required of members of the euro.

When the global financial downturn hit - and Greeceā€™s hidden borrowings came to light - the country was ill-prepared to cope.

Debt levels reached the point where the country was no longer able to repay its loans, and was forced to ask for help from its European partners and the IMF in the form of massive loans.

Corruption, tax evasion, incompetenceā€¦

Now letā€™s look at the definition of Socialism:

A political theory advocating state ownership of industry. An economic system based on state ownership of capital

You need to actually know the definition of something before you start labeling

Are you guys arguing the merits of capitalism v socialism or something else? You do realise that the U.S and all the countries in European Union utilise elements of both capitalism and socialism. The only difference is the level of socialism used in these capitalist economiesā€¦