For some of you who don’t know the whole story and who are biased, TRO had a bad start. First off-
He posted external links before he had 50 posts which resulted in multiple warnings and a potential ban.
From what I gather, it was TRO, NOT Tymen who started the verbal attacks.
When he did get privileges to post links, he overdid it. It always seems like he had links in every single post.
This is not just recent events. This has been going on for awhile.
As far as bringing him back- we will not. He has caused too many problems in the forum community. He may have been an inspiration to some, but he has made so much disturbance. Pipcrawler AND I BOTH have given him the benefit of the doubt, as well as countless warnings.
Can’t you just prevent the posting of images within the text…I mean that’s what seemed to annoy people the most…and [B]that[/B] sparked the rest… :rolleyes:
Seems if you could do that, then the constant verbal attacks would cease, and nobody’s thread would become a war ground and he wouldn’t be any more of a nuisance than any others around here who keep butt’in in here & there with their “challenging” opinons. Such a simple solution, but …
And speaking of images, if I may register a complaint about pics, only getting 800 x 700 is not easy on the eyes and it would be great if that was increased. I know TRO posts the big ones because for 1, it’s easier than flippin back & forth between chart & text all the time. On the other hand Babypips wants to save on server storage/bandwidth or whatever… but how is allowing unlimited picture sizes imbedded in the text helping with that.
I’ve always read this forum but never registered because… well I never had anything to say until now. I won’t be coming back though. Happy trading all. I’ll be over @ Kreslik where it’s safe.
No thread belongs to one person. There is a thread starter. Not a thread owner. I think people are thinking a thread for discussion is there personal space. I seen a dialogue between people nothing more now as to asking can someones post be removed not for spam, but because you dont like what they have to say is defeating the meaning of discussion. Who started it is not important but there were people to keep it going. Sometimes discussions are fierce but doesnt mean they arent relevant. If its Tymens thread make it private. Thats rights its for open discussion for people to discuss and debate. Not a personal friends only club.
bulletin board is an [U]online discussion site[/U]. It’s sometimes also called a ‘board’ or ‘forums’. It may contain several categories, consisting of forums, threads and individual posts. I wonder where this is from
I forgot about the HUGE IMAGES on Tymen’s thread… my bad.
If you look on the NEVER LOSE AGAIN thread, you’ll see Tymen started it. After a couple of rounds on my thread, I gave him a taste of his own medicine on his thread. He didn’t like it. I did it to prove a point.
Links? What is wrong with links? This IS the internet. You know, INFORMATION EXCHANGE!! I don’t recall any complaints about links AFTER you warned me.
Going on for a while? 3 weeks or so.
Disturbance? If someone is disturbed they can choose to ignore me. If I am attacked, I will NEVER BACK DOWN. Posting lies, misstating facts, name calling, etc… will always cause me to post. Tymen is at fault just as much as I am. Had Tymen not attacked me and my methods, this would NOT have happened. I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for my actions.
Even after Pipcrawler issued a warning Tymen continued. But it looks like BabyPips turned a blind eye to that. If all were fair and even then Tymen should have been banned immediately for his post after the warning and not me.
Look at who is disturbed by my actions:
people like 4xStar who was directing people to her website where she got referral fees and click thru rebates
Tymen who has a cult following and must protect his status as cult leader
Whatever fixed spread brokers are on babypips
Whatever software and systems vendors are on babypips
People who have been losing their you know whats following those I mentioned above. Their egos are bruised and they probably feels stupid so they take it out on me.
Like I said, it was “my mistake” posting the HUGE IMAGES on Tymen’s thread. I was seeing “red” and I forgot about that.
Bottomline is it takes two to tango and to ban one and not the other is totally unfair.
I have been a member for a long time of this wonderful site. It has taught me 90% of all I presently know about forex. It is my bible and I am NOT a religious man, trust me.
What I am getting at is that it seems we have nothing better to do these days then to fight with each other and make life more complicated then it is already.
Knowing both sides…the moderators have all my respect…but also TRO, as I had him as a guest at my home and know the man personally.
Adult people with a good background, both sides !!!
Why not pickup the phone and talk this stuff out?
Why to inject poison into this wonderful site?
It makes so many good traders walk away from these setups and NEVER wanting to help a fellow trader.
I forgot about the HUGE IMAGES on Tymen’s thread… my bad.
If you look on the NEVER LOSE AGAIN thread, you’ll see Tymen started it. After a couple of rounds on my thread, I gave him a taste of his own medicine on his thread. He didn’t like it. I did it to prove a point.
Links? What is wrong with links? This IS the internet. You know, INFORMATION EXCHANGE!! I don’t recall any complaints about links AFTER you warned me.
Going on for a while? 3 weeks or so.
Disturbance? If someone is disturbed they can choose to ignore me. If I am attacked, I will NEVER BACK DOWN. Posting lies, misstating facts, name calling, etc… will always cause me to post. Tymen is at fault just as much as I am. Had Tymen not attacked me and my methods, this would NOT have happened. I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for my actions.
Even after Pipcrawler issued a warning Tymen continued. But it looks like BabyPips turned a blind eye to that. If all were fair and even then Tymen should have been banned immediately for his post after the warning and not me.
Look at who is disturbed by my actions:
people like 4xStar who was directing people to her website where she got referral fees and click thru rebates
Tymen who has a cult following and must protect his status as cult leader
Whatever fixed spread brokers are on babypips
Whatever software and systems vendors are on babypips
People who have been losing their you know whats following those I mentioned above. Their egos are bruised and they probably feels stupid so they take it out on me.
Like I said, it was “my mistake” posting the HUGE IMAGES on Tymen’s thread. I was seeing “red” and I forgot about that.
Bottomline is it takes two to tango and to ban one and not the other is totally unfair.
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Why Did TheRumpledOne (TRO) Get Banned?
Why?
I warned TRO to stop posting huge images on Tymen’s thread. He didn’t listen. Furthermore, he has been a nuisance to some users in the forums. The constant verbal attacks never stopped. Tymen’s thread became a war ground. Finally, we made a decision to ban him. Pretty much it.
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Default Why? Part 2.
For some of you who don’t know the whole story and who are biased, TRO had a bad start. First off-
He posted external links before he had 50 posts which resulted in multiple warnings and a potential ban.
From what I gather, it was TRO, NOT Tymen who started the verbal attacks.
When he did get privileges to post links, he overdid it. It always seems like he had links in every single post.
This is not just recent events. This has been going on for awhile.
As far as bringing him back- we will not. He has caused too many problems in the forum community. He may have been an inspiration to some, but he has made so much disturbance. Pipcrawler AND I BOTH have given him the benefit of the doubt, as well as countless warnings.
Well I was also disturb by your large images in the thread “GBPJPY Winning Strategies”. I kindly ask you to post smaller images, which you didnt try to do. You also jeer me thru PM when I said “you can have the thread I wont post there anymore”. I also notice that from that day(the day we exchange several PMs) you purposely post LARGE IMAGES in all the threads you know I posted in. Maybe this wasnt deliberate but it is/was annoying, I brought it to your attention and you still continue. I dont agree with the banning of anyone from posting here, but you must have regards for your fellow posters.
I heard before this ban that you were banned from all other forex forums, this seems to be the trend, I wonder why:confused:.
my $0.02
Lets get back to trading. If at anytime you post rudely, inconsiderately, dismissively etc you go against the general ethos of BP which is about traders helping each other. Simple as that
I have given you the benefit of the doubt. I believed all you wanted to do was help even as you tried to post links to your IB business and after it was known that you accept “donations” for unreleased indicators. I didn’t judge, I just asked that you remove your links which was deemed as spam and keep your side businesses off our site. You fought me for a while on the links, but you eventually agreed. But you continued to be sly, using the signature as an promotion for ECN brokers (which is related to your IB broker-MB Trading) and your indicators. During this period, you bombarded every single thread, with links in all of your posts in the signature leading back to your thread. Because of the abuse of the signature by you and others, I had it removed. Then you still put up links at the bottom of your posts to go back to your threads. Could you make your intentions any more obvious?
And it’s obvious that your intent is promote your indicators for “donation” and Introducing Broker business. You can argue against it, but we’ve been on the net for while. We’ve seen a lot and we know better. It just went on for so long because I gave you the benefit of the doubt. That’s my fault and I apologize to the community because ever since you’ve been on this forum, regardless of how many people you may have helped, the bad has outweighed the good as you’ve fought us, disrupted the forums with arguments and bombarded threads with your oversize font and images (again clear promotion techniques) which ruins my beautiful site and the hard work of my designers! The final straw was multiple accusations of threats to other users.
And now I have to edit a statement I made on an earlier post. The internet is free and open…to an extent. And that extent is when you abuse and take advantage of the liberties given to you. And it’s clear by your behavior that you were trying to take advantage of the years of hard work the BabyPips.com team put into this site.
This is unacceptable to us and you, Avery (TheRumpleOne and any other usernames you may use), are no longer welcome to BabyPips.com. Any attempts to sign up as other usernames will be quickly deleted and banned.
I know many may disagree with this decision, but the decision stands. We are a private company and we will run it as we see fit for the betterment of our site and our community members.
This is where we part ways Avery. Take care and good luck in your endeavors.
Pipcrawler BELIEVES I am promoting my “donational” indicators and MB Trading because I am an IB there.
FACTS:
I posted plenty of FREE indicators on babypips.
I posted many times on babypips that you don’t need my indicators. I tried to drive that point home. I showed that all you need is HORIZONTAL LINES and CANDLE COLOR to trade profitably. I tried to get people to SEE this.
I told people there is NO FIXED SPREAD IN FOREX and that they should trade with an ECN broker. I posted detailed examples of how traders are being taken advantage of by FIXED SPREAD BANDITS because of their ignorance of how Forex really works. I, too, was ignorant at one time and when I found out the truth, I WAS MAD and decided to SPREAD THE TRUTH. It was my spreading the truth that led EFX to offer me the IB. I didn’t even know what an IB was. It was their way of thanking me for bringing them customers.
Yes, I used links to direct people to my threads on BABYPIPS.COM. What’s the harm in that? I wasn’t steering readers away from BABYPIPS.
I pointed out that others were using their signatures to promote. So if they can do it, then anyone should be able to, including me. But for some reason when I do it, then it’s time to remove the signature. Isn’t that interesting. Today, I found a blatant violation and I exposed it. And how did I get thanked? I GOT BANNED!!
It takes 2 to argue, fight, etc… People fight the TRUTH because it will affect them. They have all these complicated systems using multiple indicators, multiple charts, complex formulas, etc… YOU DON’T NEED ANY OF THAT TO TRADE. PRICE WILL EITHER GO UP OR DOWN… IT’S THAT SIMPLE!!
Oversized fonts and images. Big deal. My eyes are 52 years old. I hate having to flip between images and text, so I use TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting and use the [IMG] to display my charts inline. And guess what, SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT THAT WAY!! If you don’t like BIG FONTS or IMAGES, then program the site to not recognize them. If it’s there, then it should be OK to use it.
Take advantage? How so? What did I do that others haven’t done and are not doing now? If someone chooses to sign up at MB Trading and put me down as the referral, so what? That’s their choice. If someone sees one of my “donational” indicators, decides they want it and send me a donation, so what? They made the choice out of free will. No one is being forced to do anything. When you ban me, you take away a choice. That seems like a really good policy. The fact is that many traders are being taken advantage of and I was doing my best to put a stop to it. That’s what is UNACCEPTABLE.
My intentions should be obvious… To help traders. To provide FREE indicators and systems THAT WORK. To put FIXED SPREAD BROKERS out of business by getting traders to understand how the market really works. To keep traders from spending money for things they can get for FREE.
I made no threats. Tymen threatened me. I sent him a PM saying that I have been nice. But if he continued to attack me on the forum that the “gloves were coming off”. Now if you see that as a “veiled death threat” then Tymen you are the one that is severely mentally disturbed. Tymen lives in Australia. I live in the USA… do the math.
But it’s obvious that BABYPIPS doesn’t want to SEE or BELIEVE anything that I say. I must be a THREAT to their CASHFLOW in some way, shape or form. I am also a threat to their EGO. I even showed that I could use HORIZONTAL LINES placed at RANDOM LEVELS and trade profitably. NOT A SINGLE LOSING TRADE!! Obviously, that rattled someone’s cage.
Think about my history on StockFetcher. I post my filters FOR FREE. I show you how to trade FOR FREE. I show you how to code FOR FREE. Traders ask for filter help and I give it FOR FREE. Every now and then someone shows appreciation by sending me a gift or donating to my PayPal account. That’s between them and me - it doesn’t affect anyone else.
Yes, I have had my battles on SF, too. Joe G., Riggs, Mika, etc… they have come and gone… THE RUMPLED ONE STILL STANDS!! I have been banned from MIND OVER MARKETS, TRADESTATION, ESIGNAL, FOREX-TSD, FOREXFACTORY, KANTORFX and other forums. They can’t beat me so they SILENCE ME. Their indicators and systems can’t compete with mine so they attack me personally. They do NOT want you to have access to what I offer. To them, YOU ARE THEIR SHEEP AND THEY ARE YOUR SHEPHERDS. I AM THE WOLF! But this wolf, goes after the shepherds rather than the sheep. They do NOT want me EXPOSING THEM.
“We are a private company and we will run it as we see fit for the betterment of our site and our community members.”
Let me decode that for you…
“Anyone or anything that threatens our cash flow or our status as “gurus” to the ignorant masses or who doesn’t follow us in lock step will be exiled.”
They all say that TRO is a trouble maker, look at all the places that banned him. They ALL can’t be wrong so it must be TRO.
Pipcrawler BELIEVES I am promoting my “donational” indicators and MB Trading because I am an IB there.
FACTS:
I posted plenty of FREE indicators on babypips.
I posted many times on babypips that you don’t need my indicators. I tried to drive that point home. I showed that all you need is HORIZONTAL LINES and CANDLE COLOR to trade profitably. I tried to get people to SEE this.
I told people there is NO FIXED SPREAD IN FOREX and that they should trade with an ECN broker. I posted detailed examples of how traders are being taken advantage of by FIXED SPREAD BANDITS because of their ignorance of how Forex really works. I, too, was ignorant at one time and when I found out the truth, I WAS MAD and decided to SPREAD THE TRUTH. It was my spreading the truth that led EFX to offer me the IB. I didn’t even know what an IB was. It was their way of thanking me for bringing them customers.
Yes, I used links to direct people to my threads on BABYPIPS.COM. What’s the harm in that? I wasn’t steering readers away from BABYPIPS.
I pointed out that others were using their signatures to promote. So if they can do it, then anyone should be able to, including me. But for some reason when I do it, then it’s time to remove the signature. Isn’t that interesting. Today, I found a blatant violation and I exposed it. And how did I get thanked? I GOT BANNED!!
It takes 2 to argue, fight, etc… People fight the TRUTH because it will affect them. They have all these complicated systems using multiple indicators, multiple charts, complex formulas, etc… YOU DON’T NEED ANY OF THAT TO TRADE. PRICE WILL EITHER GO UP OR DOWN… IT’S THAT SIMPLE!!
Oversized fonts and images. Big deal. My eyes are 52 years old. I hate having to flip between images and text, so I use TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting and use the [IMG] to display my charts inline. And guess what, SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT THAT WAY!! If you don’t like BIG FONTS or IMAGES, then program the site to not recognize them. If it’s there, then it should be OK to use it.
Take advantage? How so? What did I do that others haven’t done and are not doing now? If someone chooses to sign up at MB Trading and put me down as the referral, so what? That’s their choice. If someone sees one of my “donational” indicators, decides they want it and send me a donation, so what? They made the choice out of free will. No one is being forced to do anything. When you ban me, you take away a choice. That seems like a really good policy. The fact is that many traders are being taken advantage of and I was doing my best to put a stop to it. That’s what is UNACCEPTABLE.
My intentions should be obvious… To help traders. To provide FREE indicators and systems THAT WORK. To put FIXED SPREAD BROKERS out of business by getting traders to understand how the market really works. To keep traders from spending money for things they can get for FREE.
I made no threats. Tymen threatened me. I sent him a PM saying that I have been nice. But if he continued to attack me on the forum that the “gloves were coming off”. Now if you see that as a “veiled death threat” then Tymen you are the one that is severely mentally disturbed. Tymen lives in Australia. I live in the USA… do the math.
But it’s obvious that BABYPIPS doesn’t want to SEE or BELIEVE anything that I say. I must be a THREAT to their CASHFLOW in some way, shape or form. I am also a threat to their EGO. I even showed that I could use HORIZONTAL LINES placed at RANDOM LEVELS and trade profitably. NOT A SINGLE LOSING TRADE!! Obviously, that rattled someone’s cage.
Think about my history on StockFetcher. I post my filters FOR FREE. I show you how to trade FOR FREE. I show you how to code FOR FREE. Traders ask for filter help and I give it FOR FREE. Every now and then someone shows appreciation by sending me a gift or donating to my PayPal account. That’s between them and me - it doesn’t affect anyone else.
Yes, I have had my battles on SF, too. Joe G., Riggs, Mika, etc… they have come and gone… THE RUMPLED ONE STILL STANDS!! I have been banned from MIND OVER MARKETS, TRADESTATION, ESIGNAL, FOREX-TSD, FOREXFACTORY, KANTORFX and other forums. They can’t beat me so they SILENCE ME. Their indicators and systems can’t compete with mine so they attack me personally. They do NOT want you to have access to what I offer. To them, YOU ARE THEIR SHEEP AND THEY ARE YOUR SHEPHERDS. I AM THE WOLF! But this wolf, goes after the shepherds rather than the sheep. They do NOT want me EXPOSING THEM.
“We are a private company and we will run it as we see fit for the betterment of our site and our community members.”
Let me decode that for you…
“Anyone or anything that threatens our cash flow or our status as “gurus” to the ignorant masses or who doesn’t follow us in lock step will be exiled.”
They all say that TRO is a trouble maker, look at all the places that banned him. They ALL can’t be wrong so it must be TRO.
well this is going to be my last post here. Ill never be back. I thought this forum was for the free exchange of ideas but it feels more like communist china!!! Tymen did start it first I read both threads all the time. He came to tro’s thread and warned us all that this was no holy grail in fact it was only a weak multiple timeframe strat… anyway not the point. I have injoyed tro’s posts and his free indicators and you know something else he is right about fixed broker spreads being a lie. Most people on this forum post links to their blogs. You can read all my posts Ive always been a positive contributor and encourageing to the new guys. I don’t appreciate you sensoring what I read. Who are you??? This is very imature of you the admin and any one who instigated it. Im sorry but Ive got better things to do.
This site belongs in the preschool of internet where all the little crying children can be protected from the big bad mean wolves who have opinions.
If “your last post here” is base upon the ban imposed on TRO I guess you wont be posting in any forex related forums, seen that he’s banned from them all.
a world in which you are either: 1 a wolf, 2 a sheep
4 are you amazed at findings wolves on your website.
5 i dont know TYMEN so wouldnt comment on him
6 i know TRO through this excellent threa that he strated : never lose again
7 TRO is a wolf ( no doubt)
8 i need a wolf to get better at becoming one.
9 wolves need to be managed, not banned.
10 nobody said it was easy to manage a open debate space where wolves are to be expected.
11 what do you expect from wolves??? good teachings or manners??? ( and i repeat i do not know tymen, but is he a sheep or wolf??)
my conclusion:
why ban a wolf that behaves like a wolf in a space that is supposedly there for wolves communities…
People don’t realize that the reason TheRumpledOne started the thread Never Lose Again is that I told him to start his own thread.
Some users were complaining about how he was posting huge images in Tymen’s thread and it was becoming a nuisance so I told him he could post huge images in his own thread.
My point is:
Whose thread was here first?
Tymen’s
Therefore, why would you think that Tymen attacked FIRST on TheRumpledOne’s thread? Looking through the first section of TRO’s thread, there is nothing from Tymen.
Maybe it was TRO who attacked Tymen first? I have yet to see proof that Tymen attacked first. If you can prove me wrong, please post the post. I am really interested to see the truth.
The trend is your friend. Why else would TRO get banned off every other forex forum? Either he was a nuisance or he was selling something. I don’t care.
Frankly, I’m tired of this drama. People are always going to believe what they want to believe. Whether or not it is the truth they believe, it will always be biased. Proof is the only thing the will stand. When you say something like “This is a bad day for BP.” or “Why did BP do that?” - get the facts before you post. How do I know? I have watched TRO ever since he got here. I have let him slide one too many times. He should’ve been banned when he posted spam links.
Anyways…
When will we get back to topics of trading? This is a forex forum. Not a debate group. We’re supposed to help each other out. When someone is being a nuisance to anyone, he/she is disrupting the learning flow. That kind of person should be slapped.
It makes me [U][B]WISH[/B][/U] that I had banned TRO in the beginning when he posted spam links. Please people, read forum rules.
CURRENTLY POST #626
Quote:
Originally Posted by tymen1
I think that this post #615 by The Rumpled One is the best post on the entire thread!!
It is the essence of the strategy.
There has been a lot said about “how to”… here, but very little about how this method actually works…
This is a multiple time frame trading method.
Like all multiple time frame strategies, it relies on probability, nothing is definite.
But that is true for all strategies.
This is a well known method in equities trading.
Because all strategies rely on probability, there is, therefore, a risk of loss.
In any timeframe, there is nothing to stop the price action turning against you.
However, with scalping, you can quit the trade if you are in profit before the price action goes against you.
Herein lies a potential strength of this method.
This strategy relies on the higher time frame giving direction to the lower one.
The timeframes, however, are randomly chosen and hence do not necessarily give that direction.
Note how in the many charts posted, the daily timeframe colour does not agree with the weekly or monthly.
Also a 4 hour timeframe would be a better indicator of the 1 hour trend than the daily.
If I were to use this approach, I would also add a 4 hour timeframe to increase my confidence and hopefully (but not necessarily) the probability of success.
The danger with this strategy is that of an indicator (in this case a candle) repainting and thus rendering the method useless.
It is for this reason that, although I find it interesting because of its simplicity, I personally do not use it.
The same for the Heikin Ashi Smoothed strategy.
It is also a multiple time frame approach and suffers from the same repainting problem.
I post this here not to rip the Rumpled One, but rather to make new traders aware that this method, which appears simple, is not a Holy Grail, but is a strategy belonging to the multiple-timeframe family.
It has, therefore, all the advantages and defects that go with that approach.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Tymen, you have it BACKWARDS!!
H1 is the time frame that controls the BIAS DIRECTION. H1 was NOT randomly chosen. H1 was chosen to exploit the average hourly range of the currency being traded.
When H1 matches D1, that means you can look for bigger profit.
When H1 doesn’t match D1, that means you are in a 5 pip scalp mode IF you want to enter the trade.
Please do NOT confuse people here, Tymen. You do NOT know this method, nor do you trade it. We don’t need H4. In fact, all you NEED is H1. I showed that in the HORIZONTAL LINE thread.
I just proved this method works. Look at the charts. They are all TIMESTAMPED. The HOW IT WORKS is in the charts. Perhaps, Tymen, this method is too simple for you to understand and that’s usually the case. The more a trader “knows” about trading, indicators, etc… the more they struggle with the simplicity.
Did you NOT read the post by other traders that have had success with this method? That PROVES the method works.
Of course, there is a risk of loss… THIS IS TRADING!!
Tymen, NEWBIES do NOT need to be warned about me or my methods.
They need to be warned about all the rest.
Oddly enough post #615 is different than it once was. Coincidence? Not quite. Are the moderators here just whiny nerds pretending to trade for a living? This site isn’t larger than their brain capacity…which is defunct.
To prove your readers wrong, leave this post. What is BP’s policy on individual thought? That’s a rhetorical question…
