Climate change is a complete hoax

It’s Gone ! The link is in that post - check it for yourself.

I hope Mr Moore has the brains to wonder whether he is actually on the “Right side” - ie the side which demands secrecy and de-platforming when anything which would create a climate of open discussion and objective truth is accidentally allowed to escape into the public domain .

Any REAL truth can stand up for itself in any society which encourages open and honest discussion !

This Climate Hoax is Not REAL truth !

[Edit here’s another truth you won’t hear on “Mainstrem” media - Germany threatens jail if you speak out a TRUTH !

teenage Naomi Seibt speaks about the threats she has received ! and vows to fight for her right to free speech in Court ]

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"OooooH - It’s chilly this morning !"

It seems that on the surface and in the Mainstream media - there is no reaction at al because there is nothing happening…

Underneath though and in Private — they are panicking and praying for new Sunspots ! — so they can get back to earning their livings by demonising plant food ! :wink:
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Lol - Met Office UK on June 1st 2020

May 2020 becomes the sunniest calendar month on record.

And it is even more extraordinary following a drenching winter, with record rain in February. said the BBC weather page.

That’s the latest weather report from BP :slight_smile:

I wonder then how you would counter the points made in the Video ? :wink:

I don’t think it’s really a hoax. The climate is really changing, we just don’t notice it

Hi, I don’t think “it’s really a hoax” either - It’s not my thread so the title just is as it is.
Nobody with any knowledge disputes that climate changes. It always has and always will - just a simple fact of life.

The “Hoax” part comes from the conjecture that "man made CO2 " (Not actually “man made” at all - just released from nature by the actions of men & women) is responsible in any meaningful way at all !

If you are wanting more info please see - my thread

All the best

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"This Climate thing has got too crazy! "

Sanity’s take on it

A quick look at the “Hit rate” of the incessant screaming of the Thermageddonists over the past 50 years or so ! :wink:

The left just wants to be ready with this “next big” sky is falling crisis. COVID is going to go away after Trump’s victory. So …

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Whose fault is this ? -

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Climate change is a result of how badly we are treating our Mother Earth. It’s high time that we do something about it.

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So if you think it’s high time we do something about it may I ask who is WE???

All countries, all citizens, who??

Considering that China and India who are classified under the Paris Accord as emerging economies, are responsible for at least 50% of global emissions. What do you do about these countries??

Cheers

Blackduck

Are you sure about that?

Ucsusa.org list China as number 1, USA as number 2, then India as number 3 (2018 figures)

Well ex-President OBama agrees with you and the Democrats are going full bore at stopping it so we can all be happy that they’re so confiddet of success that they’s already acted on it ! :slightly_smiling_face:

Patrick Moore, PhD., former Greenpeace co-founder, now “The Sensible Environmentalist”, gave this presentation at the Doctors for Disaster Preparedness Conference in Tucson, Arizona, July 20, 2019. Dr. Moore presents his thesis that much of the climate change hysteria is framed around issues or places that you either cannot see or that are too remote for an individual to go and assess for themselves.

The Arctic Is Melting

This opinion-piece from The Daily Reckoning appeared in my email inbox last evening –



Annapolis, Maryland
December 22, 2020

Brian Maher

Dear Clint,

EARTH is down with a fever. Even the polar ice has vanished.

Reports The Washington Post:

The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s surface. Expeditions have sailed as far as 81 degrees 29 minutes north in ice-free water. The eastern Arctic has steadily gotten warmer, and today the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of about 50 years ago. Many old landmarks have changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.

Thus the Arctic sweats:

Formerly the waters around Spitzbergen (Norway) held an even summer temperature of about 3 degrees Celsius; this year recorded temperatures up to 15 degrees, and last winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.

Spitzbergen sits far within the Arctic Circle, incidentally. Imagine an ice-free winter deep within the Arctic Circle — if you can.

As well imagine hell without its fires. But there you are.

To deny climate change is to deny the very nose upon your face — or gravity itself.

Wait… When?

But what is this? Could it be?

The article here cited bears the date of November 2… 1922.

That is correct — November 2, 1922.

The Arctic was iceless in 1922… if you accept the verdict of The Washington Post.

But the internal combustion engine was a mere adolescent in 1922, a junior menace, a future bugaboo.

Industry was up and going — but enough to melt the stubborn Arctic ice? We are filled with doubt.

We must therefore credit an alternate heat source. But what?

We do not know. We lack credentials within the climatic sciences.

Yet there is the sun to consider — it gives off a varying glow. Might shifting ocean currents explain it… or wind patterns?

We hazard they might. Again, we do not know. But we slant heavily towards the natural explanation.

So much for 1922. What about 2020? Has an additional century of fuel-burning raised the earthly temperature?

Carbon Dioxide

It cannot be denied, carbon dioxide emissions are greater than in 1922.

We ordered our minions to investigate the literature. This morning they dropped the report upon our desk. Thus we learn:

Carbon dioxide represents a vanishing 0.04% part of Earth’s atmosphere.

Imagine — if you will — this atmosphere as 100 cases of one-liter bottles. That is, imagine this atmosphere as 2,400 one-liter bottles.

Of those 100 cases, 99 are not greenhouse gases. They are therefore irrelevant to our inquiry.

A mere one case of the 100 represents greenhouse gases. Of the one case that represents greenhouse gases, one bottle of the 24 represents carbon dioxide.

Of the one bottle that represents this demon molecule, perhaps 50 milliliters represents mankind’s annual contribution — roughly one shot glass.

And so… of our theoretical atmosphere of 2,400 liters, humans account for perhaps one shot glass of carbon dioxide.

Alternately: consider the atmosphere a 100-story building. The human CO2 concentration amounts to the linoleum on the ground floor.

Yet this relative trifle is scorching the planet? We request the authenticated documentation — chapter, verse, line — footnotes included.

It is fully plausible that fuel-burning has tinkered Earth’s temperature. And carbon dioxide is but one variable in the mix. The science is… complex. It is beyond our slender comprehension.

But if Earth’s climate was so exquisitely sensitive to minor carbon dioxide rises… why hasn’t it burned up?

This planet has previously endured CO2 levels 25 times or greater than today’s, we are informed. Yet the match never struck.

Why are we tackling climate change today? This publication centers on money and markets, after all.

The answer is because the Federal Reserve is enlisting under the banner of climate change… and entering the fray.

A Risk to Financial Stability

For the first time in its 107 years… it has labeled climate change a risk to financial stability — a risk greater, ostensibly, than even itself.

Federal Reserve grandee Lael Brainard:

Chronic hazards, such as slow increases in mean temperatures or sea levels, or a gradual change in investor sentiment about those risks, introduce the possibility of abrupt tipping points or significant swings in sentiment… Acute hazards, such as storms, floods, or wildfires, may cause investors to update their perceptions of the value of real or financial assets suddenly.

That is, the Federal Reserve must keep an eye upon the weather.

It is not alone. To the European Central Bank (ECB), climate change is a mighty fee-fi-fo-fum that menaces financial stability.

ECB President Christine Lagarde says caging it is “mission critical.”

The central bankers can moan about climate change all they please. But is it within their power to address?

After all, you say, they cannot even squeeze 2% inflation out of their economies.

How then can they command Nature herself… and dictate her temperature across all four corners of Earth?

Your question is our question. We do not know how they can.

Yet they are answering the klaxon… and clearing for action. How might central banks rout the evil enemy, how might they break the fiery siege?

The Central Bank Battle Plan

By putting “carbon-intensive” industries on ice. Reports the New Economics Foundation, regarding the Europeans specifically:

In the ‘lower-carbon’ scenario, the ECB stops buying bonds issued by fossil fuel companies and by companies with relatively high carbon intensity that belong to the energy-intensive, non-renewable utilities and carbon-intensive transportation sectors. Instead, the ECB would purchase bonds of potentially green and renewable sectors, as well as green bonds and bonds of ‘other’ non-carbon-intensive sectors. The second, ‘low-carbon’ scenario excludes all the bonds issued by carbon-intensive sectors…

The same remedy holds for the Federal Reserve. Central banks must therefore abandon “market neutrality.”

That is, they must place their thumbs upon the scales.

That is, they must choose winners. And they must choose losers.

That is, they must allocate resources through political consideration.

“We have to ask ourselves,” says Ms. Lagarde … “whether market neutrality should be the actual principle that drives our monetary-policy portfolio management.”

The question itself is the answer.

The Green Behind Green Energy

The scheme is green in this one sense: It would green the “clean energy” industry. Jim Rickards:

Central bank support for the climate change agenda is more than just rhetoric. Central banks regulate commercial banks and control payments systems. They may decide that loans to energy companies should be discouraged and finance for wind and solar systems should receive favorable treatment. They can also require disclosures by banks intended to cast carbon-intensive sectors in a bad light.

A term exists for it — crony capitalism. The scoundrels and frauds will be holding out their hats… promising to lower Earth’s temperature and its sea levels… in exchange for easy financing.

But is cleaner wind and solar energy not desirable? Should the world burn coal instead… and choke?

We take no position. If the world prefers wind over oil, solar over coal, let it have wind and solar over oil and coal.

Yet the world must evidently come to terms with fundamental physics…

The Point of Diminishing Returns

Mr. Mark Mills co-directs Northwestern University’s Institute on Manufacturing Science and Innovation. From whom:

All sources of energy have limits that can’t be exceeded. The maximum rate at which the sun’s photons can be converted to electrons is about 33%. Our best solar technology is at 26% efficiency. For wind, the maximum capture is 60%. Our best machines are at 45%. So we’re pretty close to wind and solar limits. Despite big claims about big gains coming, there just aren’t any possible.

If this fellow is correct — our minions inform us he is — we begin to suspect we are being taken for a sleigh ride.

Wind and solar energy would be vastly inadequate to energy needs… and would remain inadequate to energy needs.

Yet they may become highly efficient absorbers of capital.

We hazard many green energy businesses will prosper… with central banks helping to push them along… though few will produce much by way of value.

That is, they will grab valuable capital from worthier and more productive hands. They will likely form a lovely bubble in time.

But at least they are saving the planet…

Regards,

Brian Maher

Brian Maher
Managing Editor, The Daily Reckoning



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If Only - The “Science” really was “Settled”

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Hi @CarlosRay, I believe @Blackduck is referring to 1. and 3. giving of 50% of global emissions even though both (China, India) get dispensations to produce more emissions than the US under the Paris Accord as emerging economies.

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1/100 of a degree ?

We do love this garbage !

True = However they are even now so low that plants are experiencing the equivalent of plant pneumonia !

Very true @Clint

However they speak of teh “Greenhouse effect”

Here are the true Greenhouses - 10,000 panes and how much “warmer” do we think we would be trying to sleep in a greenhouse 100 panes wide and 100 panes long (=10,000 panes) with only 4 panes actually being glazed against the 1920 version of 10,00 panes with only 3 panes glazed ?

(HINT - TRy sleeping in winter with the outside door left open ! and no additional heating )