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[liftoff]

Then the second fastest man in the world would be the fastest man in the world. And everything I previously stated would still apply.

But if they are all refusing to run for you to observe, how do you end up with the second fastest person in the world?

[PipJoker]

You are all too much focused on the person. It is the material that counts, as you need to use it yourself.

I rather see material from 10 fake gurus and see if it gives me a lesson or two, than to skip all of them just because they don’t have proof.

I guess thats the difference between you and me. I can’t stand to hear/see fake gurus preach about system, when they never traded them or even at all.

[Toekan]

I guess thats the difference between you and me. I can’t stand to hear/see fake gurus preach about system, when they never traded them or even at all.

Probably… I think the point I want to make is that even their praising can give you valuable ideas, and it would be a pity when you waste that opportunity. Just keep it in mind, that is all.

[mastergunner99]

But if they are all refusing to run for you to observe, how do you end up with the second fastest person in the world?

Then you have to get up and run yourself and figure out how to go faster.

[liftoff]

I guess thats the difference between you and me. I can’t stand to hear/see fake gurus preach about system, when they never traded them or even at all.

For all you know he maybe teaching you to saw wood a hammer. So I ask humbly, Dear Guru, cut that wood with the hammer so I can see how you do it. Is that too much to ask? sighs.

[Jaroon]

I was trading a number of (don’t call me) Mike’s tools last year, all be it just a select few, and had a pretty good trading year. I’ve had a pretty dreadful trading year so far, trading the same tools in the same way. The main difference being the break down in cable/fibre correlations (SMT) which is a major filter in my trades and I’ve been forcing entries (ooh err!) and losing.

As a second rate trader it has taken me till now to realise my system just doesn’t suit current market conditions. Anyone can take a lose but imo better traders identify when one set of entry criteria is not working quickly and adapt. I don’t want to throw the baby (some of the tools) out with the bathwater (our God bothering, gun owner pretending, I never watched porn in my life (wat!!) mad mentor). FXbook is a great mentor filter but based on last years results I could have had students telling me how great I am and it would have taken until now for me to be found out, so it’s still not fool proof.

[liftoff]

Then you have to get up and run yourself and figure out how to go faster.

So we come back to the point I made initially. No myfxbook, no guru. People will test and make their own tools.
People will learn to run that 100 meters themselves.

[mastergunner99]

So we come back to the point I made initially. No myfxbook, no guru. People will test and make their own tools.
People will learn to run that 100 meters themselves.

For you that’s fine. For me, I put in the work to see who’s telling me the real deal.

[akeakamai]

Then you have to get up and run yourself and figure out how to go faster.

At least someone here gets it. I’m hoping you will be there to support the technical thread i’ll be creating this weekend. It isn’t about proving it is about sharing and discussing. I hate using myfxbook as much as you do

[JackMarkets]

Okay, fine by me… If you are not even interested to have a look at it, I’ll just keep it to myself…

Good Luck Trading!

Toekan, you are one of the worst offenders at this. You claim to near enough make 100% a month yet your myfxbook shows 5% over 3 months, and you are risking 30% a trade on that one (1 pip = 2% of your equity). I would think that you are defending not showing a myfxbook because of this - I would conclude that your methods do not work, but you do not face up to the fact like so many of the OTE/traders trinity followers.

Great example. Also a good one for me to retort. Usain Bolt won’t always be able to run as he has. He also has trainers and coaches that can’t run as he has.

Likewise, the markets will always change. What might work, might not always work. The same is true of my methodology.

I’d rather follow someone who knows what they are talking about. Rather than learning from Usain, I’d want to get to the guys that taught him what he knows. And those guys aren’t the fastest men in the world.

Usain Bolt was coached by Pablo McNeil who reached the semifinal of the 100m in 1964 and Dwayne Jaerrett who was an NFL wide receiver when he was a kid. They were excellent athletes. His current coaching team have a record of producing excellent sprinters with proven results - Yohan Blake, Jermaine Gonzales and a selection of hurdlers as well. These sprinters all have excellent verified results.
So going back to who-must-not-be-named - although he was a teacher/coach, not one of his students was any good or had any decent results. So you definitely want a results somewhere down the line.
Now MG99, you are another anti-myfxbook character, and the only real reason is really because you are reluctant to show your results. If you want my analysis of why you act the way you do, you only have to ask - it will probably be frighteningly accurate.

[liftoff]

Toekan, you are one of the worst offenders at this. You claim to near enough make 100% a month yet your myfxbook shows 5% over 3 months, and you are risking 30% a trade on that one (1 pip = 2% of your equity). I would think that you are defending not showing a myfxbook because of this - I would conclude that your methods do not work, but you do not face up to the fact like so many of the OTE/traders trinity followers.

Usain Bolt was coached by Pablo McNeil who reached the semifinal of the 100m in 1964 and Dwayne Jaerrett who was an NFL wide receiver when he was a kid. They were excellent athletes. His current coaching team have a record of producing excellent sprinters with proven results - Yohan Blake, Jermaine Gonzales and a selection of hurdlers as well. These sprinters all have excellent verified results.
So going back to who-must-not-be-named - although he was a teacher/coach, not one of his students was any good or had any decent results. So you definitely want a results somewhere down the line.
Now MG99, you are another anti-myfxbook character, and the only real reason is really because you are reluctant to show your results. If you want my analysis of why you act the way you do, you only have to ask - it will probably be frighteningly accurate.

Tell me I want to know why MG99 is so antimyfxbook. I promise I wont tell anyone.

[akeakamai]

If you aren’t trying to prove anything, what is the purpose of myfxbook?

[mastergunner99]

Toekan, you are one of the worst offenders at this. You claim to near enough make 100% a month yet your myfxbook shows 5% over 3 months, and you are risking 30% a trade on that one (1 pip = 2% of your equity). I would think that you are defending not showing a myfxbook because of this - I would conclude that your methods do not work, but you do not face up to the fact like so many of the OTE/traders trinity followers.

Usain Bolt was coached by Pablo McNeil who reached the semifinal of the 100m in 1964 and Dwayne Jaerrett who was an NFL wide receiver when he was a kid. They were excellent athletes. His current coaching team have a record of producing excellent sprinters with proven results - Yohan Blake, Jermaine Gonzales and a selection of hurdlers as well. These sprinters all have excellent verified results.
So going back to who-must-not-be-named - although he was a teacher/coach, not one of his students was any good or had any decent results. So you definitely want a results somewhere down the line.
Now MG99, you are another anti-myfxbook character, and the only real reason is really because you are reluctant to show your results. If you want my analysis of why you act the way you do, you only have to ask - it will probably be frighteningly accurate.

It has nothing to do with the reluctance of showing results. I post real time trades from start to completion. People can figure it out on their own. And they have. After a couple weeks, people are posting their positive results. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that my methodology can create an edge for those that can grasp the understanding of price movement. Back test and forward test it yourself. Whatever results I show are irrelevant, because the underlying method requires manual discretion to begin with.

I post my end results on the first page of the forum, and that’s for people to accept or not accept. It’s their choice. I admittingly am having a huge surge of early success for the year, but I don’t anticipate such antics to continue month in and month out. I’m sure I’ll end up well above average for the year because of the sharp early increase, nonetheless.

I have gravitated to actually opening an account with myfxbook with a small live account I had for Oanda to test out various ideas I’ve had over the last five years. And when I say small, I mean small. there’s like five dollars and some change in that account. That’s largely due to my distrust in their security. My motivation to even do so was because of my talk with you in the chatroom actually on the analysis that myfxbook can provide. And you’re right, it is pretty thorough and impressive. However, it did nothing to improve my edge or assist me in rethinking my methodology. It had great reports, but it was just that. Reports.

People want to see my myfxbook, more than I need to show it to them. There’s an off balance, that I don’t like. I’m under the impression, that if you demand it so much, pay up. I see why people need to see it, but I see no reason why I need to show it. My time on here is voluntary and people are at liberty to accept what I have to offer, or reject it. The thread I even started is complete with such reasoning. It’s on my time, and my way, or it doesn’t exist. When it’s not longer on my time, then my time needs to be justified. And as it stands, my hands are tied from even venturing down that world. And even still, that is not a business model I have an interest in conducting over the internet with anonymous names and faces, yet coupled with real life liabilities.

I don’t need a following. I don’t need the ego boost. I don’t need to brag. I am exactly as I am. Take it or leave it. The few people that have found initial success with my methodology is enough to keep me entertained to provide more for them. I don’t partake in a method that most people would be suited for to begin with. My niche is small and narrow and will only fit certain individuals. And quite frankly, that’s my preference.

But I will allow you the opportunity to entertain youself. By all means, do tell me how your analysis of me would be so frighteningly accurate. I’ll provide my feedback as to how far or close you are.

The reality Jack, is that you really want to see my results. My results are my own. With a little work and effort you can have your own and decide whether or not you want to show them or not. My results are evident by the ability to duplicate such success with others.

[green_as_grass]

If you aren’t trying to prove anything, what is the purpose of myfxbook?

None!
But by standing up as a self proclaimed teacher / mentor / coach you are claiming your expertise in whatever field you are in.

So my question is, if you were going for brain surgery & the surgeon refused to give proof of his skill, qualification, knowledge or experience & there’s no track record you can look at, will you be keen to have him open you up?

fxbook isn’t the be all & end all, but it’s a start to sorting the men from the boys.

[Toekan]

Toekan, you are one of the worst offenders at this.

Why are you so offensive? It looks like you feel personally offended about the use of myfxbooks.

You claim to near enough make 100% a month yet your myfxbook shows 5% over 3 months, and you are risking 30% a trade on that one (1 pip = 2% of your equity). I would think that you are defending not showing a myfxbook because of this - I would conclude that your methods do not work, but you do not face up to the fact like so many of the OTE/traders trinity followers.

I don’t know what FXBook you are looking at, but it isn’t mine. And the fxbook I had open was for a new system that I am testing, and is 38% in the plus in the last 1,5 months. I am not showing all my accounts, this was just a test and I remember now why I don’t like myfxbooks. So, you are wrong here and trying to make me look bad with wrong facts.

And yes, I take high risks with new systems… I explained why in a thread. What is wrong with that?

And yes, the 100% claim I made ages ago still stands. But fine, I never claimed that anyone should believe me or follow me. Just don’t believe me! [Before someone says something about it. No that is not the system the fxbook was showing.]

I am here to give another point of view towards myfxbooks. If you don’t want to have it, leave it alone. No need to get personal. Actually I begin to had enough of those personal attacks, where I am just trying to participate and share thoughts. I already left the chat because of it.

You know, I’ll just stop and you guys go your own way. I don’t care anymore if you make it or not.

[liftoff]

If you aren’t trying to prove anything, what is the purpose of myfxbook?

As far as I know every Guru is trying to prove that his way works.

[akeakamai]

As far as I know every Guru is trying to prove that his way works.

So then is it even possible to share your trading insights without being labelled as a guru?

[green_as_grass]

It has nothing to do with the reluctance of showing results. I post real time trades from start to completion. People can figure it out on their own. And they have. After a couple weeks, people are posting their positive results. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that my methodology can create an edge for those that can grasp the understanding of price movement. Back test and forward test it yourself. Whatever results I show are irrelevant, because the underlying method requires manual discretion to begin with.

I post my end results on the first page of the forum, and that’s for people to accept or not accept. It’s their choice. I admittingly am having a huge surge of early success for the year, but I don’t anticipate such antics to continue month in and month out. I’m sure I’ll end up well above average for the year because of the sharp early increase, nonetheless.

I have gravitated to actually opening an account with myfxbook with a small live account I had for Oanda to test out various ideas I’ve had over the last five years. And when I say small, I mean small. there’s like five dollars and some change in that account. That’s largely due to my distrust in their security. My motivation to even do so was because of my talk with you in the chatroom actually on the analysis that myfxbook can provide. And you’re right, it is pretty thorough and impressive. However, it did nothing to improve my edge or assist me in rethinking my methodology. It had great reports, but it was just that. Reports.

People want to see my myfxbook, more than I need to show it to them. There’s an off balance, that I don’t like. I’m under the impression, that if you demand it so much, pay up. I see why people need to see it, but I see no reason why I need to show it. My time on here is voluntary and people are at liberty to accept what I have to offer, or reject it. The thread I even started is complete with such reasoning. It’s on my time, and my way, or it doesn’t exist. When it’s not longer on my time, then my time needs to be justified. And as it stands, my hands are tied from even venturing down that world. And even still, that is not a business model I have an interest in conducting over the internet with anonymous names and faces, yet coupled with real life liabilities.

I don’t need a following. I don’t need the ego boost. I don’t need to brag. I am exactly as I am. Take it or leave it. The few people that have found initial success with my methodology is enough to keep me entertained to provide more for them. I don’t partake in a method that most people would be suited for to begin with. My niche is small and narrow and will only fit certain individuals. And quite frankly, that’s my preference.

But I will allow you the opportunity to entertain youself. By all means, do tell me how your analysis of me would be so frighteningly accurate. I’ll provide my feedback as to how far or close you are.

The reality Jack, is that you really want to see my results. My results are my own. With a little work and effort you can have your own and decide whether or not you want to show them or not. My results are evident by the ability to duplicate such success with others.

Sorry dude but with all due respect that’s what our mate ICT used to say. I could even hear his American accent as I was reading this… & guess what? we used to see him make live trades in the chat room that were real gems! yeah they actually played out, but he hated the fxbook suggestion from the start & now we know why… Crash & Burn!

BTW some of those pictures you posted up were classic, I had to laugh despite the sadness of it all

[mastergunner99]

Sorry dude but with all due respect that’s what our mate ICT used to say. I could even hear his American accent as I was reading this… & guess what? we used to see him make live trades in the chat room that were real gems! yeah they actually played out, but he hated the fxbook suggestion from the start & now we know why… Crash & Burn!

BTW some of those pictures you posted up were classic, I had to laugh despite the sadness of it all

There’s a stark difference between ICT and me. I don’t need a following. I do not want to be a mentor. I don’t need my email blowing up with people requesting this and that and wanting help. I’m not a guru, nor do I want to be a guru. I have nothing to prove. If you can’t take me at my word, I’d rather you not have me at all. I’m quite content with that.

So by all means, you are at liberty to reject every word I ever share with anyone that I believe is for their benefit in the markets. I do not take it as a personal offense, because I understand you have a prerequisite. As such, so do I. And that’s for people to have enough intuition to know what’s bs and what’s not. It doesn’t take much to figure out what I say is helpful or not. I’m not asking people to monitor the news and bond yields and a million other things. Simply watch price. Diversify your risk. And stop trying to time the market. Those are fundamentals that could help out everyone.

If there ever comes a time, where I demand people believe me, or I want to commercialize my efforts, then I’ll be more than happy to provide people with all the proof they need. And after five years here and counting, it’s never come close to anything like that. My attitude has stayed consistent the entire time and my stance of free education remains the same as well.

While my approach is unique, it’s nothing new. I didn’t invent anything. I just applied principles in other financial arenas and applied them to Forex. And what do you know… it works… quite well in fact.

[SimonTemplar]

There’s a stark difference between ICT and me. I don’t need a following. I do not want to be a mentor. I don’t need my email blowing up with people requesting this and that and wanting help. I’m not a guru, nor do I want to be a guru. I have nothing to prove. If you can’t take me at my word, I’d rather you not have me at all. I’m quite content with that.

So by all means, you are at liberty to reject every word I ever share with anyone that I believe is for their benefit in the markets. I do not take it as a personal offense, because I understand you have a prerequisite. As such, so do I. And that’s for people to have enough intuition to know what’s bs and what’s not. It doesn’t take much to figure out what I say is helpful or not. I’m not asking people to monitor the news and bond yields and a million other things. Simply watch price. Diversify your risk. And stop trying to time the market. Those are fundamentals that could help out everyone.

If there ever comes a time, where I demand people believe me, or I want to commercialize my efforts, then I’ll be more than happy to provide people with all the help they need. And after five years here and counting, it’s never come close to anything like that. My attitude has stayed consistent the entire time and my stance of free education remains the same as well.

While my approach is unique, it’s nothing new. I didn’t invent anything. I just applied principals in other financial arenas and applied them to Forex. And what do you know… it works… quite well in fact.

Also you haven’t mentioned anyone eating crow once.