Is there anyone who has been vaccinated here?

I’m not completely discounting the point you’re making, but the VAERS websites states the following:

“While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.”

VAERS has been described as Wikipedia - anybody can write anything. And any vaccinated person that has a side effect or any health problem, whether the healthcare provider thinks it’s related to COVID or not, needs to be reported to the system.

And it’s not a closed system. Literally anybody can report incidents, including

  • Patients
  • Parents/family member
  • Caregivers
  • Those who administer vaccines
  • Healthcare providers
  • Vaccine manufacturers

The system did help detect the issues with the J&J vaccine and blood clotting, so the system works at identifying issues. But only because the system is stating 11405 deaths, that’s not saying COVID caused them. The system isn’t meant to prove causality. I think that distinction needs to be kept in mind.

@dudebro, I rest my case, also see below where most of the VAERS data comes from…

Report an Adverse Event to VAERS

Doctors consulting patients on how to report to VAERS

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences. Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients.

Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS:

Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccinations. An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine

Healthcare providers are strongly encouraged to report to VAERS:

Any adverse event that occurs after the administration of a vaccine licensed in the United States, whether it is or is not clear that a vaccine caused the adverse event…

Vaccine manufacturers are required to report to VAERS all adverse events that come to their attention.

Online reporting is strongly encouraged. Please report clinically important adverse events that occur after vaccination of adults and children, even if you are not sure whether the vaccine caused the adverse event.

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) accepts all reports, including reports of vaccination errors. Guidance on reporting vaccination errors is available if you have additional questions.

Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.


I don’t know anyone in Australia that has contracted COVID… It is that rare in Australia…

And while on the subject of RARE… A friend of mine, a perfectly healthy 56 year old was admitted to Hospital during the week… 4 Hours after receiving their 2nd AZ dose… With RARE blood clots… Began with pains in the legs which turned to constant painful cramping in the thighs and calves… Now on medication for the next 3 months… This guy is a Scientist with the CSIRO…

Pretty pissed off about the whole experience… Was even told by hospital administration too keep it too himself… “We cannot prove it was the Vaccine… And we don’t want to hurt the confidence of others that remain unvaccinated!!” FFS… The BS around these vaccines is just mind blowing…

This is the second hospital admittance due these vaccinations I personally know of in Victoria…


Yesterday, Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison outlined a long road out of restrictions, setting a target of 80% of the population to be fully vaccinated before the government would reopen borders and end lockdowns.

The number is around 12% at present so good chance I’ll not get to visit Melbourne for a few years.

Hello, was your vaccine?

Oh, @peterma… You say it like it’s a bad thing…?

On a serious note though. You’d love it here in Victoria, the Socialist Capital of Australia… Snap Lockdowns… Government making up the rules as it goes… The highest COVID deaths in Australia (by 700!) due to its Hotel Quarantine Failures, yet it’s leaders still preaching to the rest of Australia how to contain this Virus…

You would feel all warm and fuzzy in Chairman Dan’s reality vacuumed daily… dystopia

This fustercluck will be all be over before we reach those lofty percentages… The longer this collective psychotic insanity continues… The more populations are waking up to the manipulation, lies and control global Government’s are attempting to apply to their citizens…

An example of the constant scaremongering by lobbied medical and the media’s presstitutes…

What happened to those predicted massive spikes in infected cases after July 19… Cases went down!!
Numbers have practically halved in the UK in the past 11 days, from a peak of 330,000 down to 195,000 across the 7 day rolling average…

Vaccinate the elderly, infirm and anyone else that suffers from a scorching case of this mass psychosis… Then open up and let herd immunity do it’s thing… I’ve had the same message all along…


Exactly who has COVID Killed in this Pandemic…

Obesity, fear, depression and anxiety are the largest co-factors in death from this Virus…

So ladies, who would have guessed that hiding under your doona’s is a contributing factor…

The usual folks… Facts and figures derived from REAL data against Myths and Legends…


The hysteria surrounding Covid is giving the Salem Witch Trials and Saddam’s ‘Weapons of Mass Distraction’ a real run for its money.

Pfizer have released a six month study on Safety and Efficacy. It is not particularly balanced and focuses heavily on demographics that are not in the “at risk” categories but this is to be expected from a study by one of the least ethical drug companies.

Their conclusion is an interesting one especially in light of the steadily increasing numbers of vaccine failures (breakthrough cases) in fully ‘vaccinated’’ people, well over 50% in Israel until thier Ministry of Health pulled the numbers from their web platforms.

Here is an independent breakdown of the Pfizer study. If you have a short attention span the key findings are in the last section risk/reward:

might it be worthwhile for high risk? yes.

might this vaccine be a bad risk for the young and healthy? yes.


Yep, you have to make it short and sweet… Most have the attention spans of Guppies…

And no, not the Daryl type…

Most of the popular Social Media channels that is providing information (ie: facts) are having their Wikipedia pages altered to paint them as suppliers of mis-information… Free speech is under a concerted attack!!

Read that they are attempting to block the VARES website as well… It’s making them look bad…
Not from a reliable source, but I’ll keep watching that space… Smoke is usually followed by flames…


And under youtube’s 3 strikes policy on spreading mis-information on covid shy news Aus have been suspended for 1 week.

Strike 2 is 90 days and strike 3 - banned for life.

Now I’d happily take up your kind offer of a visit but your fed govt have closed your borders - cannot get in our out it seems (maybe some contact within the govt, apparently there are ‘exceptions’ to the travel rule.

Anyways good old France and Spain will have to do for now - but there’s always maybe 2024 or 2025 or possibly 2026 - virus permitting :slight_smile:

Edit: I see a typo but left it as is :slight_smile:

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Shy News… The kryptonite of the left leaning lunacy… Must have got a little to close…

No facts to back your narrative? Block the opposing view… Leftists version of conflict resolution…

“When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” ~ Tyrion Lannister


Thanks for that @Trendswithbenefits - :sunglasses: - However - you’re wrong ! :wink:

“Obesity = 130% risk”

“BEING MALE = 150% risk”

  • But we’re Not allowed to mention that of course !

In fact he does brush on the fact that Testosterone reducung meds do seem to be ‘protective’

Also highly relevant as far as I can see - is the total lack of SMOKING as a “risk factor” - in fact if I remember right smoking was identified fairly early as a “contra indicator” - in fact (again from memory) Macron (France) tried to remove tobacco products from sale right at the beginning - which many found quite odd !


True - also the great Global Warming hysteria is liable to dwarf even this little hysterical nightmare !


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Interesting to comapare this particular ‘Monster’ with Bookers “7 Basic Plots”

In fact it seems to fall into his category 1 (Overcoming the Monster) - type 2 (The Monster and the thrilling escape from death)

Wherein he writes
". In short whether it is animal, human or a mixture of both (or even like Wyndham’s triffids an intelligent plant) the monster will always have human characteristics, but will never be represented as wholly human. By definition the one thing the monster in stories can never be an ideal perfect and whole human being

Then there are the monster’s behavioural attributes. we anvariably see it acting in one of three roles;

1) - In it’s first ‘active role’ the monster is predator. It wanders manacingly or treacherously through the world, seeking to forrce or to trick people into it’s power. It may have a lair which it sallies out from, but primarily in this role it is looking for victims. It 'walketh about seeking whom it may devour , spreading fear and destruction, and casting a shadow wherever it’s influence is felt
2) - The monster’s second, more passive role is Holdfast. It sits in or near it’s lair, usually jealously guarding the ‘treasure’ or ‘Princess’ it has won into it’s clutches. In this role it is a keeper and hoarder, broody, suspicious, threatening destruction to all who come near.
3) - When it’s guardianship is in any way challenged, the monster enters it’s third role as Avenger. It lashes out viciously, stirring from it’s lair, bent on pursuit and revenge !

In fact we may see the monster (in our case a hybrid of perceived viral and human actions ) acting out in all three roles at different stages of the same story …"

I’m sure those who are not “Guppies” can piece the parallels together for theselves - whilst it is also interesting to note that those of whom we tend to be rather dismissive - speak constantly of “imagining”, “telling stories” , “their own realities” , “re-imagining” , “Narrative” and “feelings” (their own emotions)

He then goes on to say …

"One may sum this up by saying that physically, morally and psychologically, the Monster in storytellingthus represents everything in human nature which is somehow twisted and less than perfect. - Above all anditis the supreme characteristic of every monster who has ever been prtrayed in a story, he or she is egocentric. The monster is heartless; totally unable to feel for others, although this may bedisguised ebneath an decpetively charming, kindly or solicitous exterior; it’s onlt real concern is to look after it’s own interests, at the expense of everyone else in the worlld."

Such is the nature of the figure against whom the hero is pitted …"

So we can see that in the case under consideration, the WHO, Gates, Pfiser et al - whilst pretending to be “Hero” - are really an integral part of the Monster Itself !

We can see the same parallels - in “Global Warming” and the Race baiting proponents of “critical Race Theory” :roll_eyes:

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That’s the thing about censorship - it has no bounds either the so called left or right.

From 1988 until 1994 it was illegal for any UK press to broadcast the voices of one political party in NI - the ban was introduced by Margaret Thatcher.

She referred to the ban as ‘denying the oxygen of publicity’.

According to the experts Mrs Thatcher was not a leftist.

Edit: was just thinking about your quote from Tyrion Lannister - good chance that Mrs Thatcher had not come across that quote.

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There you go again… Myths and Legends from the last century…

How about pointing out some right wing Pandemic censorship from the past 12 months… Links or facts!

“With 1.85 million subscribers, ‘Sky News Australia’ on YouTube has 400,000 subscribers more than ABC News, and is more popular than all three of Australia’s commercial news network’s YouTube channels combined…”

It’s no wonder YouTube had to get it blocked… That’s a whole lot of leftist stupidity being revealed…


Why do you think that censorship is confined to health and this thing you call the left;?.

Could we include the most non political thing - sport and a non-left country and the timeline not the last century but the last few hours?.

Belarus Olympic athlete Krystsina Tsimanouskaya has said she was “safe” and under police protection in Japan after claiming she had been forced to leave the Tokyo Olympics by her country.

What terrible crime was committed by this athlete? - she spoke out on a video instagram with words that were condemned in her home country.

Wake up - you are being fooled by the notion of the left and the right - that’s last century thinking.

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I’m not sure that “right” has been a real thing, but “left” was succinctly defined by Marx. And his teachings pose as great a danger to liberty as they did when he first wrote them down.

The danger in the modernist trend away from the adversarial position of “left” and “right” is that we fail to recognise the “left” until its too late. Ask the Cuban people.

Modern thinkers wail and moan when they observe that politics has become more divided and more divisive. I say, that’s a good thing if it means I won’t be a slave to a socialist regime.


All you need to do is join a professional sports team, they seem to be immune from the Covid and can travel freely. You might be able to get a place on the British Lions?

If you’re watching the Olympics you may have noticed the team sports were celebrating wins and offering condolences with lots of group hugging and laughing and then they mask up and social distance when they receive their medals. There is definitely something that prevents covid while engaging in sports.


Oh nooo. :open_mouth: Is this for the delta variant? Or still alpha? How are things now?

You have got a single athlete from the Olympics and the Pandemic that has killed millions all mixed up… As usual you cannot provide an answer, any real information, data or links to back up anything you post… You’re in you own little world… Absolutely pathetic Pete…

As displayed in this thread, even the Left fail to recognise they are actually left until it’s too late…

@peterma, I don’t understand this quote…???

A dive for the hard deck… A disingenuous response after quoting Soviet Government Policies

Even when they are Left, they don’t want to be seen being associated with the fairy tales & fantasies fraternity…


Displays the total shiteshow COVID is in Australia, and Fauci’s ever changing story…


Primarily delta.

If you’re good with CDC data, here’s a good look at where we stand currently.

Cases up 65%
Testing is up 30%
Vaccines administered is up slight under 1%
Hospitalizations up 46%
Deaths up 33%

that’s for the country last 7 days compared to previous 7 days.