Political Opinion

@tommor - You have attributed a quote to me which is false - please rectify that !

Is that how you really see it mate ?

I asked my own question in that post which by the same token - YOU have “dodged” !

Ok - Better than what other alternatives ?

I’m not sure you can even ask that question on a binary level !

My earlier post mentions the "Rambo 3 " film which dedicates itself to “the Gallant People of Afghanistan” - the burden of that quote was to point out that Afghanistan has been on the receiving end of attempts to subjugate it’s people for time immemorial and that the Russians failed with their Gunships (at the core of the film) - whatever makes anyone think that USA (under whatever guise) will succeed ? - cf “Viet nam” !

Hi Falstaff -

Yes, I do see that you did dodge my question. So, assuming there is significant potential wealth in minerals in the country, and given that the country has failed to disable the efforts of the Taliban, is further military intervention by NATO justified to prevent such wealth falling into the Taliban’s hands? I say, “Yes”. You say something else but I’m not sure what you would do.

Never seen Rambo 3…

Some of the people in Afghanistan have gallantly opposed the Taliban, and our fullest support is due to them. I’m pretty sure we don’t want to subjugate the Afghan people for the sake of it, but to prevent their country being taken over and run (again) by our enemies.

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I’m sure you all know the issues we are facing in South Africa

Actually, you might start a thread on that, as we all have an interest in SA’s progress and some insights from a resident might be very healthy.

Well if I dodged yours, You dodged mine ! :laughing:

Please address that issue ! and explain why we should allow governments to keep the privatised Central Banks out of Government control ?

Then put this right please ;-

Please rectify attributing that statement to me which I never made ! -

To wit ; :frowning:

Perhaps if you watched it and even more so the newer one “Rambo”, and saw some of the consequences of conflict - it may just reduce your appetite for “invading peoples countries”.

actually we know very little in the states, and what little we are told by the US media would have you believe that South Africa under Black rule is an utopian society.

I would love to here the truth from someone who lives there

Go and see Rambo? You’re kidding, surely?

Actually I did see the first one but it was a wet afternoon in Blackpool and we couldn’t all agree on what to do but at least it offered the chance to get out of the weather.

I have no opinion on private or government control of central banks.

What is this statement you’re talking about?

  • No not “first blood” - the latest one = “Rambo” - Stallone is a very bright man and this fillum is special !

Yet you seem to have an opinion on propaganda !

WHY don’t you have an opinion on the most important issue of modern society ? :frowning:

Duh ! - as I said in my previous post ;

To quote you ;

Now - SORT IT OUT ! :rage:

Mike Pompeo and Jim Mattis discus their next false flag chemical attach in Syria

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If I could be convinced that private or government control of central banks was anything like the most important issue for modern society, I might then be motivated to have an opinion…

You did not say, “Do you think it would be better for NATO to let the Taliban have the mining income?”.
That was my question. I said it.

I can’t see how it became conflated but I suppose its something to do with the awful software programme here when I quoted from a reply with quotes in it. But I have deleted the quoted question - I think that will have cured it. I don’t understand what happened, nothing was intended.

JFK was an inside job
Moon landing was fake
Marilyn Monroe was assassinated
Earth is flat
911 was a plot
Climate change is a hoax
Princess Diana was killed on the Queens orders

Everything one side claim is “evidence”, everything their proponents say is “lies”

You just can’t have an opinion without some fruitcake demanding evidence which they then claim is garbage anyway, insisting that their own version of the truth is correct.

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Nice one eddie.

On JFK, read a couple of books lately that made a good job of showing the third shot (the head shot), was an accidental discharge from a Secret Service assault rifle in the escort car. Explains a lot of anomalies in eye witness accounts, including by the way Oswald’s unexplained “I’m just a patsy” comment - he knew he was a patsy in some way because he knew for certain he didn’t fire the head shot.

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Let me cut into this American political debate and share some insight into South Africa. Recently, multi-billionaire businessman and vice president Cyril Ramaphosa took over the office run by Jacob Zuma. He was not elected, apparently he was “voted in”. Personally, Cyril Ramaphosa has a better chance of improving the economy due to his intelligence. Jacob Zuma along with his supporters, who can’t even pronounce 8 figure digits, has caused much scandal and corruption in South Africa since he was elected. He cannot speak English properly, he is a slow reader, he does not take the economy seriously and only cares about fulfilling the pockets of his family. Examples are the R246 million of public funds JZ spent on “upgrades” in his personal home Nkandla.

Elections are in 2019 and there may or not be a change Cyril is elected. This is because since Cyril Ramaphosa’s take over, fuel prices have been increasing every week, causing a heavy burden on poor South Africans.

Here’s the juice.

Land Expropriation without compensation (land restitution sugar coated) is one of the major political discussions amongst South Africans. The current ruling government ANC wants to amend the constitution to allow land to be expropriated without compensation. Currently, if government wants to expropriate land, they would have to compensate the farmer. Major political parties ANC and EFF disagree with this saying white farmers/land owners should not be compensated because the land was stolen by their forefathers. Many white South Africans believe that if their land is expropriated, the economy of South Africa may become like the economy of Zimbabwe when land expropriation was practiced there, leading the Zimbabwean dollar to become obsolete and worthless, prompting them to use foreign currencies as their medium for buying and selling goods.

I am a White, English South African. Most blacks in South Africa consider all whites to be “Afrikaaners”, the same nation of white people who caused Apartheid in South Africa. Very few black South Africans paint white people with a different brush. This is understandable though, as Apartheid had caused a major outcry and had many bad effects on the black people in South Africa. However, it is my opinion that the current black government has had plenty of time to redress the economy. However, due to the hunger for more power most politicians are more interested in filling their own pockets than looking after the economy.

It is my opinion that if land expropriation does occur, and the government doesn’t regulate who they give this land to, it will cause a major setback regarding food production amongst other industries that make use of farms.

Finally, I see a very bleak future for the new generation of white South Africans(especially Afrikaaners) in South Africa. BBBEE, affirmative action is so rife in South Africa that white people have to fight with one another to get a job where only 1 or 2 positions are available for white South Africans. The older generation of white South Africans are nearing their expiry date, are already educated and already have jobs that some have kept since the 80’s/90’s. It is the newer generation, us, who are taking the hardest knock.

Any questions are welcome. I am 21 years of age living in RSA.

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I would say get out of there, but where do you go, the US sure is not the answer anymore.

stay safe and thanks for sharing

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If you’re moving, the UK has just reported the highest number of job vacancies ever recorded here, 833,000, and a healthy economy. England’s a brilliant place to live, London one of the most interesting and exciting cities.

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