Democrats are nothing like Robin Hood.
Robin Hood stole from an oppressive tax hungry government and gave it back to the people.
I think Shatners Last Stand (awesome name by the way) was referring to welfare and the government (robin hood) taxing the working class (the rich in this metaphor) and giving it to the poor (people on welfare)âŚ
Take from the rich, give to the poor. That metaphor is wrong. That wasnât the whole story of Robin Hood.
Any Democrat that compares themselves to Robin Hood is wrong.
Finally something worth debatingâŚhaha I am pretty sure the message and basic story behind the folklore of Robin hood was ârobbing from the rich and giving to the poorâ
Redistribution of wealth is technically what all tax collecting governments doâŚGreece is a democracy with capitalist economy and a bloated, corrupt government. Just because your dog has spots doesnât technically make it a cow! Just because Greece has an inefficient government it doesnât make it a communist Cuba. This article also is also formed in a manner of a nonfactual opinion of âŚsome guy, a contributor with the Forbes. We could fill rooms full of servers with ignorant opinions like this.
haha yeah.
Way I remember it, he went after the tax collectors.
Talking about ignorant and backward views on life. Hereâs the great George Carlin, again deconstructing the conservative bubble you live in.
Greece has a bloated govt. The government is thoroughly involved in the Greek economy. It certainly is a nanny state, much like the United States has become.
The only difference betweenn Greece and the United States is that the US has a printing press. The US no longer espouses free markets. There are mountains of regulations, taxes and wealth redistribution from the makers to the takers.
At some point the Fed wont be able to hold down interest rates. They have to go up if we ever aspire to have an economy that isnât 100% reliant on debt and easy credit.
However, when rates finally do go up, the US imlosion will make the Greek Crisis look like a Sunday Picnic. The govt has to legitimately default or make MASSIVE spending cuts and throw out a bunch of Unconstitutionalal bureaucracies.
If they decide to print, we will have an inflationary collapse.
Either way we are screwed.
Why are we screwed?
Because of the expensive wars, unconstitutional federal entitlements and federal welfare. Basically because we gve a middle finger to the constitution and decided to ignore it while the Supreme Court rubber stamped every unconstitutional thing the govt has done and in many cases, just written new laws.
It should be an interesting ride, when the stimulus induced party comes to a grinding halt.
We canât even afford the (illegal) federal welfare, where are we going to get the money for the (illegal) mandatory mental care?
In before âTax the Rich!â
Yep. Itâs unfortunate that we have allowed the US to become so socialistic by ignoring the constitution.
If we ever aspire to have sustainable, legitimate growth, we would ditch ALL socialistic policies at a federal level.
If an individual state wants to have welfare programs or provide free college, fine, the 10th amendment allows them to do that. However, almost everything the federal government does now is illegal.
We are not screwed. But, there is no going back eitherâŚNWO is a fact, Orwelian, highly controlled society will be a fact because governments now own ultimate weapons of destruction and revolution is not really an option. However, we humans can now look forward to the next step in evolution, from homo-sapiens to homo-artificialis where we will totally be merged with the machines making us impervious to hunger and diseaseâŚThis stuff is just round the corner
Legalize drugs and tax them, reduce military industrial complex to keep up with the times of no equal opposing force to the USâŚAll Iâm saying is, if you want your welfare check you have to see a psychologist first who will evaluate if youâre angry enough, because of this dis in life( losing a job), to want to hurt innocent peopleâŚPeople desperately need professionals to talk with about their problems, their bottled anger and etcâŚ
Nah, thatâs what threads like this are for 
Threads like this are good for reinforcing of radical views by talking to other simple/similar minded people from around the world.
Was just joking about this being a way to get out bottled anger, sheesh
Totally agree with this, black markets wouldnât exist without laws preventing free markets. Donât allow every horrible drug to float on the market but allow the least dangerous party drugs (incl cannabis) to be sold at a pharmacy. Give companies incentive to make better quality drugs with less of the negative side affects. Control the level and amount of distribution to prevent addiction and put some of that money used in the war on drugs and the tax earned to fund advertising campaigns against the use of drugs, similar to cigarettes / overuse of alcohol (the real killers in western society).
People will now say by legalising drugs, drug use will go up but this is simply not the case. Educated and informed people make their own decisions about what they put ito their bodies. Cigarettes and alcohol are legal but not everybody smokes and drinks or if they do its in moderation.
N.B. You could effectively squash organised crime tomorrow by removing its main source of revenue.
Cannabis, Hemp, among the oldest cultivated plants. Harmless but outlawedâŚWhen will people learn the lessons of the 1920âs about prohibitionâŚ?
I canât understand why the government wouldnât support more deregulation, its pure capitalism!
P.S. I added a few socialist ideas in there, shhh donât tell anyoneâŚ
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Redistribution of wealth is technically what all tax collecting governments doâŚGreece is a democracy with capitalist economy and a bloated, corrupt government. Just because your dog has spots doesnât technically make it a cow! Just because Greece has an inefficient government it doesnât make it a communist Cuba. This article also is also formed in a manner of a nonfactual opinion of âŚsome guy, a contributor with the Forbes. We could fill rooms full of servers with ignorant opinions like this.[/QUOTE]
Tax collecting for a free enterprise market country is used as a means towards building infrastructure, national defense, and paying government workers⌠In countries operating on principles of socialism (aka Greece and other euro countries) tax collection is a method of wealth redistribution where the government admittedly is taking money from the wealthy⌠And giving it to the poor unabashedlyâŚ
Greeceâs government is well past inefficient⌠It operates and competes in the same business world and sectors that private business does, and when it employs such a disproportionately large ratio of workers compared to the private workforce, there is an argument that it does indeed own many business sectors, which happens to fit your definition of socialism.
Add to that the massive social entitlement programs the Greek government sponsors and the goal of wealth redistribution and youâve got yourself a country operating on principles of socialism.
i LOVE graphs! Ok, so what you posted is a graph of RECEIVED REVENUE into the treasury. This graph does not show tax rates, but it does show how much revenue was received by the treasury as a percentage of GDP. Now, look at when it went up and when it went down. In 1980 it dropped because Carter had just raised taxes the year before for the 1980 fiscal year, and as a result of raising taxes, along with all the stupid anti-business laws passed, caused the revenues to drop. The for the 1980s Reagan battled with the Dems in congress to get taxes cut, and finally succeeded in having the cuts phased in, which caused a great increase during the 1990s, at the end of which the Clinton tax hikes took effect, plus recession, plus 9-11-2001, which caused revenues to fall. then the Bush tax cuts caused another increase in revenues during the 2002-2006 era. Then the Dems took control of both houses in 2007, and spent, spent, spent. They blocked any other legislation to free the economy, kept housing bubble going until the crash of late 2008, and the treasury has had a decline ever since, despite the raising of tax rates since then.
Govât cannot create wealth, it can only take it from the creators. The more govât takes, the smaller the economy gets, shrinking the private sector. The less govât takes, the more the private sector can grow. Now, as the chart clearly shows, when you cut taxes to a reasonable rate, revenue to the Treasury GROWS! This is because of a larger tax base. Itâs the same basic concept a large business owner is aware of. Itâs better to take a smaller percentage of profits, lower prices to get more volume. Higher volume will create a larger bottome line. More people paying taxes, with more $volume for each individual is better than a higher rate.