no that Assumption would be highly inaccurate cuz there are many levels of profitable traders with a different mindset as yours. closer to the unique mind hes looking for
Just a wild guess - those seeking a mentor perhaps?
Well this is a site well-known for its high proportion of newbies. And there have been cases in the past where marketers have come here to entice the gullible and desparate into their product range. But, as we all know, one cannot simply overtly advertise products here for free so one has to concoct a covert “soft” version where one creates the image of being successful and having a strategy that works so that the desparate, gullible and naive send PM’s pleading for the details.
Oh, and it often helps if one can introduce someone who comes here saying things like:
Kind of underlines the authenticity of the ploy.
Obviously, I am not suggesting for one minute this is the case with this thread at all. But that kind of thing has been known to occur, here, on BP, under the mods noses…and phrases like
“i know whats required to train someone from start to finish”
“all my students needed…”
“being honest with themselves and seeking a mentor.”
do tend to raise one’s suspicions in a field that is rampant with people looking to empty the pockets of the desparate, gullible and naive.
But that is not to say that this particular situation is in that league at all. I wouldn’t point a finger, just generalising on common practices that occur from time to time…
Will someone tell me (on this forum, not via messaging) what exactly the “unique mind” is? It’s been referred to a number of times. I know I really shouldn’t be getting drawn into this, but trying to figure out what the heck is going on in this thread is like a puzzle I really need to solve. I suspect it’s some sort of stealth-marketing but I’m giving the OP a chance to prove me wrong! And I must admit it’s fuelling my taste for the bizarre.
Why are you quoting me for? I don’t even know what yr talkin about?
One could anticipate that if someone happened to spot another poster here with whom they have been in contact previously, they would simply send a PM saying “hi, remember me?” and not post it as a public shout on a thread - unless there is an ulterior motive, of course!
Now, I am not saying here that you specifically are doing any such thing, but this is a common element in “soft sell” marketing.
First, the seller “advertises” his own successes and the hard work undergone to achieve that position - this attracts the attention of the gullible and desperate.
Second, he drops the bait that he has students and actually fast lane mentors them to the same state of success - this convinces the gullible and the desparate that they could also be one of them.
Third, an “existing” contact makes a timely “third-party” appearance acknowledging the mentor and, in the eyes of the gullible and the desperate, thus confirming his authenticity.
Fourth, the gullible and desperate send in their PMS to the holy mentor, begging to be accepted into the elites.
However, I am not saying you are playing this role, only that your public declaration of being a former contact, by coincidence, fits that particular role.
Aferall you have said previously on other threads:
You say that you do not know what I am talking about, well read through this thread and you might get some idea of the breadth of the awareness here on BP of such marketing approaches. It happens.
The problem with any kind of public internet activity is that one never knows with whom one is talking. Not their circumstances, not their authenticity, not their intentions or motives, whether they speak the truth or not, whether pics are genuine or photoshopped, whether their profille pics are genuine or a misleader, etc, etc.
Therefore one should always approach any such situation with caution and even a hint of cynicism - especially before parting with any money.
But I am sure you are aware of all this, being a successful trader and mentor to others?
if you get scammed you get scammed’ fear is the enemy.
Exactly! It is always too late after the event.
And precautionary diligence is the vaccine. It still might not prevent it occuring but it should at least minimise the symptoms.
Trading is not actually that difficult, it is more a case of being realistic, patient, positive, disciplined - and being content with little bits regularly rather than always striving for the jackpot, reaching for the stars or jumping for the moon.
Afterall, at least for most of us:
Time to move on to other things…
This sentiment should be taken with a big pinch of salt. It’s almost like you’re saying, @jcena44 that we should not be cautious about being scammed.
Just give this thread simple yes/no answers - are you (or a group you are affiliated with) providing mentorship? If so, is any money or capital required in order to be accepted into your group or the group you are affiliated with?
sovos you dont sound like my peers’ we’ve all made it and we all disagree with you. are you sure you’ve solved daytrading or are you trying to impress people you dont know on a forum?
theres people seeking the truth and you do them a disservice with this politically correct garbage.
by being cautious of getting scammed you wind up scamming yourself out of an opportunity. like i said fear is the enemy, if you are serious about trading. whats the worst that can happen’ will you give up your life savings like an idiot’ will you die?
when it comes to this game you better take every opportunity you can get because lets face it you are likely not connected’ you are a nobody. you are desperate. please lets all stop pretending to be something we are not. i solved trading and i know what mindset errors i made along the way. you guys dont sound like youve solved anything.
taking bits of profit as you go’ really man? if that worked you would all be rich because that is what you are all trying to do. your entitled attitude is the reason you havent made it. you dont know a damn thing but want to act like you do on a forum. drop the act’ stop talking and start listening. jesus christ the human race has a long way to go… so narcissistic
Either ICT or former ICT student trying to emulate - just another wild guess.
It’s all down to being humble
you guys poison every thread with this fear based bs. sounds like ict left a deep imprint on you. not everything is a conspiracy
and im a chris lori guy but let me guess’ hes fake too? exactly you sound crazy’ like a crazy uncle that wont shutup
I am afraid you have got the wrong man here. I am not him although I do envy his predicting skills and certainly his contacts in high places. But if you wish to learn more about that person then I can recommend a good book for you. You might learn some other useful things along the way!
Now this is really interesting. We aleady covered the first four steps of the scammer as follows:
And now, as always, we witness the fifth step:
When the scammer finds he is exposed he always attempts to re-elevate himself back to his role as mystic on a pedestal by trashing someone else. It is uncanny how they always do this even though it only deepens the original conviction about the scammer.
Trading is easy and straight-forward. I really don’t know why people try to make it sound so complicated! It is just a business like any other. And it needs to be run like a business with all the same tools and skills as a business. Anyone who has been self-employed knows this instinctively There is no need to try and dress it up as something difficult and needing one to “die” for it!!!
I do understand that it took you many, many years to reach that point but be assured, and comforted, that that is not uncommon. There are also other people here on BP who have also taken so long to get there.
I am happy for you that you have now finally made it and I hope you manage to keep it up - and I think it would be nice for you to share your experiences with others here out of pure kindness rather than selling it and certainly without all the unnecessary drama! Try it!
you can spin it any way you want. you still dont sound like chris lori’ or stacey burke’ or stephen kalayjian’, they all share an underlying system and they also share a logical ruthlessness where they dont care about your feelings. just like the market
let the readers make up their own minds. those that listen to you will fail and those brave enough to fight fear and pride have a slight chance
This is crazy.
Yeah, so what is this ICT thing? I’ve heard it mentioned before, but not sure what it is.
Well I confess I am pleased to hear that, I prefer to think of my own approach as being unique to me. Thank you.
After all your experiences, you clearly are aware that there are many ways to approach trading and it is as important to ensure the approach matches one’s own circumstances and pyschology as it is to ensure the approach itself is credible and functional.
For some this may mean day trading (which does not have to mean trading every day!) whereas for others they are more comfortable with working from daily charts with longer term horizons.
Some are more comfortable with TA alone, others with FA. Others work with a combination of the two.
Some will work with a basket of instruments, others will specialise with just one or two.
There IS no single correct way to trade. I am sure you and your peers have developed a successful approach and that is truly a great achievement given the appalling failure rate amongst newcomers. But it is certainly not the only approach that can earn consistently.
This is a forum that caters to the beginners in this business. And it is for learning and assisting and sharing ideas and experiences with others. It is not a just market for recruiting private customers.
So let’s see what you’ve got. Give the newcomers here some example trades and explanatory comments on what you are doing and not doing. Afterall, this is your thread, not mine. I will leave you now to get on with it.
I could do everything to succeed